Ultimate Paradise

derp

Who would've thought you and I would make the same exact thread? DAMN YOU! >8U

Don't post in my thread, please.

Castlevania>Sonic


tbqhimho

You sir, have failed at life, have a rotten day.

k

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Seriously though, this is pretty epic. Coming up with the exact same idea on the exact same board at almost the exact same time.




Well, good for your opinion. I happen to disagree with it, but whatever. /logical response

*Resists urge.*

Anyways, I have some AR'd Chao as well. All the character Chao, actually. I made Sonic and Shadow on my own. The three Chaos Chao were a pain in the ass to make though (not with AR, of course).

But I stopped with Chao a long time ago. They were awesome though. They should definitely make them return, but you shouldn't be forced to do stuff with them if you want Emblems. I personally didn't care about Emblems. I just liked raising them.


In the same minute, to be more precise. >_>

c


*wonders what "urge" is, prods until resistance ends*

I didn't feel like finishing my statement. >_>

Urge to flame you, I guess. I don't know, I'm not feeling creative right now.

Sonic = cool
Tails = awesome
Knuckles = alright
Shadow = sucks
Rouge = blarg
Eggman = awesome
Vector = alright
Espio = cool
Charmy = sucks
Blaze = awesome
Silver - sucks

FINALLY, someone completes KFC with me.

I ARd a Chaos Neutral Chao, a Chaos Hero Chao, an Amy Chao, a Knuckles Chao, a Tails Chao, a pure black Tails Chao, and Invisible Chao, and a, ... Um... And an Omochao <_<

I got a really good chao by transfering him from Sonic Advance, the game had named him Minan. Weird name I know but it totally grew on me.  :D

He was awesome, beat every race and karate thing easily, he was a hero and was all pimped out with tiger and pheonix parts.



And then he died along with all my other chaos when my memory card last all of my data. ._.

IMO:

Sonic = Awesome
Tails = Awesome
Knuckles = Once awesome, now sucks
Shadow = Should've stayed dead.
Rouge = Stupid bat ****.
Eggman = Awesome
Metal Sonic = Awesome
Vector = Cool
Espio = Cooler than Vector.
Charmy = Stupid bee is stupid.
Blaze = A bit too bland for my tastes, but she isn't so bad.
Silver = Cooler than Vector. >_>

By the way, has anyone taken those "Which Sonic character are you?" quizzes? I do it just for the lulz, but I always get Sonic. >_>

Sonic = Awesome
Tails = Awesome
Knuckles = Meh
Shadow = Cool in SA2, should now get out.
Rouge = Who the hell even notices she exists?
Eggman = Awesome
Metal Sonic = Bad Ass
Vector = Find the Computer Room.
Espio = Bad Ass
Charmy = I must be the only one who likes him ;_;
Blaze = Bad Ass
Silver = GTFO

But to actually talk on the topic I tried to start. A Chao Raising DS game. Would work really well, methinks. It could connect to the console Sonic game that comes along around the same time, and be fully 3D, of course.

The only question would be how to acquire Chaos Drives and Animals. Sure, there are minigames. But who likes minigames? I don't. And Chaos Drives being gotten through Minigames would be a pain in the ass. You could get rings for the black market through races and karate though.

My long list:

Sonic = Ok, but the writers for his games make me hate him sometimes.
Tails = Ok.
Knuckles = Eh.
Shadow = Should've stayed dead, but was cool b4 his own game.
Rouge = Sex appeal for furries.
Eggman = Cool
Metal Sonic = Awesome
Vector = Computer Room?
Espio = Cool.
Charmy = I ****ing hate this guy.
Blaze = I dont like her, was kind of a boring character in her first game and the other ****ed up her continuity.
Silver = Never again, never, ever, again.
Emerl = FTW!!!!
Fang = Cool, should make at least 1 more appearance
Bean = FTFW!!!!!!!!!11zOMG!!!!!awesome
Bark = awesome
Cream & Cheese = awesome
Omega = ok
Gamma = better than Omega
Chaos = awesome
Amy = STFU please
Tails Doll = Dumb
Metal Knuckles (Red) = really cool
Metal Knuckles (Blue) = more cool
Big = lol fat
Black Doom = sucks
Babalons = suck
Elise = beastiality is creepy
Mephilis = horrible character imo

I feel like writing down my ideal plans for a Sonic game.

I'd post them here, but I go in-depth and the message would be huge, besides that, it wouldn't accomplish much <_<

Though writing it down at all in the first place wouldn't accomplish much either >_>

You and me both. But I love writing down my ideas, even if it's for no reason. >_>

The game could work, but to make a whole game just on the chao garden(s) they would have to expand what was in SA2(B) a LOT!

Ya know what would make the game really cool? 2D levels where you could get rings/drives/whatever for the chao garden, and unlock bonuses for completing courses within a certain time or getting a high score. Then use what u collect/unlock for 3D chao garden play.

But thats just my opinion, I think this would be awesome but I'm sure not everyone would.




And online Chao karate/races FTW.

Same here, lol. But I have ideas for every series I love, not just Sonic. :P

Eggman=Best


 >_>

Well yes, obviously you'd need to add a lot. The three gardens, but way bigger. Maybe with some slight garden customization, too. You still control Sonic characters to enter the garden and raise the chao though, but via WiFi you can enter other people's gardens with them. A 2D sidescrolling platform game for that stuff would work. But with Sonic characters, or Chao? Because a Chao platformer in which you use your type (flight, speed, etc) to complete would be awesome, even if just as a side thing.

A bunch of minigames, Karate, Racing, all online. Online chao trading, and more stat variety. SEGA could even send out character themed chao out over WiFi for special events. More advanced Chao AI, etc., etc.,

There's so much potential it's impossible to list every possible implementation, so I'll stop there. <_<

On the topic of chaos, I always had an interesting Dark Chao in my SA2B.

He was a Dark Swim type, so naturally he hated the hero garden and hero characters. But after taking care of him enough with Hero characters and then moving him to the Hero garden he began to act more like a Hero chao. i.e. liking hero characters and crying if he was put in the Dark Garden.

From what I've heard, I'm the only person this has ever happened to (although I'm sure I'm not, I'm probably just the only one that I know :P).

Ok, so it isn't interesting at all, but its something you might want to try out if you want a Dark chao that acts like a Hero one, or vice-versa.

I remember when I tried to make dark chaos. They turned out being emo instead of evil. They just sat there and cried all the time. >_>

I suppose it's because I beat them so much...

I used to love Sonic 2 back in the day but my love of the series ended with that game.  I tried to play Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles but they just didn't hold my interest. 

Also, when did they start calling him "Eggman"?  I always knew him as "Dr. Robotnik".

I had plenty of Chao from SA2:B that I can't remember, but my favorite one was this blue Sonic Chao that I nicknamed "Chonic."


In Sonic Adventure 1. However, in Japan he was always known as Eggman.

Now, if you ask me...

SONIC THE HEDGEHOG: Awesome.
MILES "TAILS" PROWER: Awesome.
KNUCKLES THE ECHIDNA: Pretty cool.
AMY ROSE: Pretty cool.
SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG: Meh.
ROUGE THE BAT: Meh.
DR. EGGMAN: Cool.
METAL SONIC: Cool.
CREAM THE RABBIT: Awesome.
VECTOR THE CROCODILE: Cool.
ESPIO THE CHAMELEON: Cool.
CHARMY THE BEE: Meh.
BLAZE THE CAT: Awesome
SILVER THE HEDGEHOG: Bleh.

I have a sonic chao in SADX.

I have:
Sonic chao
Shadow chao
My hero chao (named Jawo') ^_^
Another for my cousin
a swimmer chao
a power chao

^for SA2B

Never cheated for any of them...
NiGHTS chao

I had a lot of Chao when I still used to play SA2.

Dark Chao
Hero Chao
Running Chao
Swimming Chao
Power Chao
Flying Chao

I never did bother to get a Angel or Devil Chao though, that took way too long >_>

A 3D Chao Garden game on the DS would make my dreams come true!!!

After I beat SA2B I spent all of my time in the chao garden raising my chao. I was addicted! I love those little things, there so awesome. I've even like, thought up some ways it would work.

Of course, you choose who you want to raise your chao as, and then it would work like the last one. In order to gain Chao Drives there would be little mini games...blablablabla/rant.

I don't feel like posting everything...That would be too much...

Any way, in SA2B I my favorite chao was my maxed out blue-neutral-power chao named Zeo. He was so cool, and the very first chao I ever maxed out, plus he was blue.

I'm gonna be making a Sonic fighting game called Sonic Clash.

I'm going to try and include EVERY Sonic character. Here's who I have so far:

Sonic the Hedgehog
Super Sonic
Hyper Sonic
Darkspine Sonic
Miles “Tails” Prower
Super Tails
Knuckles the Echidna
Super Knuckles
Hyper Knuckles
Amy Rose
Cream the Rabbit
Vanilla the Rabbit
Blaze the Cat
Burning Blaze
Silver the Hedgehog
Super Silver
Dr. Ivo “Eggman” Robotnik
Shadow the Hedgehog
Super Shadow
Rouge the Bat
Vector the Crocodile
Espio the Chameleon
Charmy Bee
Big the Cat
Chaos Zero
Tikal
Fang the Sniper
Mighty the Armadillo
Ray the Flying Squirrel
Bark the Polar Bear
Bean the Dynamite Duck
Maria Robotnik
Gerald Robotnik
Lumina Flowlight
Void
Metal Sonic
Neo Metal Sonic
Silver Sonic
Mecha Sonic
Super Mecha Sonic
Tails Doll
Metal Knuckles
EggRobo
E-101 Beta
E-101 Beta Mk II
E-102 Gamma
E-102r Chaos Gamma
E-103 Delta
E-104 Epilson
E-105 Zeta
E-123 Omega
E-10000G
E-10000R
Emerl
G-Merl
Black Doom
G.U.N. Commander
Jet the Hawk
Wave the Swallow
Storm the Albatross
Shahra
Erazor Djinn
Eggman Nega
Marine the Raccoon
Captain Whisker
Johnny
Mephiles
Mephiles the Dark

They started to call him "Eggman" from the start.

In Japan.

Sure you have enough characters?

I took one just now and I came up as Shadow.


That would be a great game.

No, i want to include everyone. It's the entire point of this game.


Could someone direct me to this quiz?


Thank you.

Go to Quizilla.com. There's millions of quizzes there, albeit some of them sucking.

Here are part of my ideas.

Title: Sonic Adventure 3
Platform: Wii
Playable Characters: Sonic, Knuckles, Tails, Metal Sonic
Unlockable Characters: Amy, Shadow, Silver, Blaze,

   Sonic's Gameplay: Same-old, same-old. From start to finish, you run. But, there are some differences. Instead of having permanent power-ups, there are temporary power-ups for that specific level. A few other power-ups, however, are permanent, like the Light Dash, Ball Bounce, and Light Attack. Others, like Magic Gloves, are temporary, and unique to the specific level they are found in. For example, Water shoes allow Sonic to walk on water (lolJesus), but they are only accessible in water levels. Unlike Mario power-ups, these need to be permanent for the rest of the level. Shadow is unlockable for Sonic as well. He has virtually similar moves, but he also has that Chaos Control thing he had from Sonic Next-Gen, and the ability to do a very small Chaos Blast if he kills enough enemies. This doesn't really give him an advantage, because his homing attack is limited in range, and his spin-dash is a bit slower. I also think Mach Speed Zone should return, but they shouldn't be all glitchy, like in Sonic Next-Gen. Hold the WiiMote sideways for this.

It's not finished, obviously. I'm trying to do Knuckles', Tails', and Metal Sonic's. I want them all to be different. For Knuckles, I want his Treasure hunting to be gone, a replaced with actual platforming. For Tails, I want him to utilize his tails to, you know, fly. For Metal Sonic, I'm still not sure. I want it to be similar to Sonic's, but different at the same time.

Metal Sonic isn't that different from Sonic himself...besides being a robot of course. Just make his levels harder, kinda like what they did with Shadow in SA2 (although it's not that easy to notice)

That's the problem though. I don't want this game to be like Sonic Adventure 2 in the sense that two characters have the same gameplay. That would just make three styles. I'm trying to make it like Sonic's gameplay, but having obvious differences aside from difficulty.

Well you're gonna be thinking for a long while...

>_>

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4452/avatarln6.png)

I expected that.

No you didn't, don't lie

I have an idea...

I'll post when I will...

Wrong.

Fix'd

Fix'd.

Fix'd'd

No.

Yes.

Guess again.

Let's just stop and get back to business now...Serious Business.

Internet. Serious business.

So anyways...I'm thinking about Knuckles' gameplay next. What did you think of my interpretation of Sonic's?

Pretty good, anyway I gotta go now, my sister wants to go on, later.

My ideal game also featured a playable Metal Sonic, as an extra, like he was in Sonic Adventure... Or was that just DX?


My idea is to keep the in-stage upgrades for Sonic. Five of them to be found, rail grinding, double jump, bouncing, chaos control, and light speed dash. I was going to make Metal Sonic different by giving him different upgrades, making him faster/slower (I don't know), changing how resistent they are, etc.

Sonic would be the only playable character normally, plus a Sonic 2 style w/Tails co-op.

The only pain in the ass is level lay-out. I want like 30 stages, but I don't know if I want to do a Mario style hub (70 emblems to fight the final boss, 140 total, like that), a Sonic Adventure style hub, or just linear.




But back to chao. I was trying to make a Reala chao at one point, I think I still have him, unfinished. It was a two-toned black/red dark/fly/fly chao.

Sonic Shuffle 2.

*flees*

I'm going to get Sonic Shuffle next year.

oh? You haven't played it yet?

It.....wasn't......all that good.......
It cheats.

Quality isn't an issue; I own Shadow the Hedgehog.

WHA HA HA!!! I sold my copy for 70 bucks!!!

I exaggerated a little to my friend and told em' that you get to do the Matrix and crap while shooting human's heads off. Best 70 dollars of my life.

I could sell it to a pawn shop if I wanted to. I'm not keeping it because I have to or anything, I'm keeping it because I want to.

Shadow the Hedgehog wasn't that bad... I'd say it was, decent.

*rips eyes out of socket and puts them back in to see if I read that correctly*

Get out.

>_>

DEATH TO ALL WHO OPPOSE ME!!!

You guys make it seem like it's terrible.

Sure...It had crappy VA, a poorly executed plot, and rather bad camera angles. Oh, and weapons and vehicles that were completely useless, and a few badly designed and not-so fun levels. But if you look past that, you get a decent game.

............you played that Digital Highway level haven't you? That level had me sobbing.

When I typed "Badly designed and not-so fun levels" I had that exact level in my mind. Worst one in the game.

I never felt so violated in my life when I played that level. It hurt my emotions and my mental prowess. That level should be put in a padded room and buried into oblivion.

My least favorite part about it was the REALLY frustrating mission where you are with Espio, and you gotta do that giant maze thing and destroy those one things. GAWD that took a good 2 HOURS from my time.

exactly. That is the most truthful thing I've heard in ages.
I started to grow a beard it took so long.

Jesus, I've never been as frustrated as when I played that part. I had no ****ing idea where the **** to go. Eventually I was like "GOD ****ING DAMMIT! WTF?"...

I'm getting frustrated THINKING of it...

The Lost Colony level is worse.

At least IMO.

*facepalm*
How could I forget!?
Most confusing level EVER!

But there were some good levels.

It had bad gameplay, bad level design, bad visuals, bad BGM, bad voice acting, and a bad story.


Of course, if you ignore all that, well... You don't even have a game. You have a disc.

I enjoyed Circus Park. (I think that was the name)

Well, theres always Crush 40.

>_>
<_<

... *Scarfs disc*

*coughZebraheadcough*

Crush 40>Zebrahead

Only because of Live & Learn and Open Your Heart

I'll kill you.

But...What about "What I'm Made Of", "Never Turn Back", and "I Am"?

I don't like Never Turn Back or I Am.

You know, the music in Sonic Next-Gen was pretty good (the music for the levels, at least).

Aquatic Base:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yPflHWn9HN0

White Acropolis:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=awJTBGiM28s&feature=related

Kingdom Valley (Mach Speed Zone):

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-_5SMBiJAyA&feature=related

I only like the last two, although they aren't that great compared to music from other games

I agree. Crisis City is good though.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NSkMNhc04SI&feature=related

Yeah, Crisis City is one of the best in that game, although:

Crisis City (Mach Speed) > Crisis City

I think this is the best song in the game. His World Instrumental.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vRe3h1iQ1Os&feature=related

Crisis City Mach Speed is definitely better than regular Crisis City though (for some reason, I keep wanting to spell "Crisis" as "Chrisis") >_>.

*Posts the full Eggman theme for no reason*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWiSEyU76M4&feature=related

Eggman's theme is intense.

He's got teh master plan, straight up.

Biolizard Theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zah19RJJ2EQ&feature=related

That Biolizard was a pain in the ass...but the music was good

Sonic vs. Shadow (The Ark):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWA42v0OUVA&feature=related

Sonic Adventure 2 had great music.

Hate to change subjects, but...

(http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs21/f/2007/232/1/c/From_Amy__s_Closet_by_KnuxZ.png)

Indeed.

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I forgot how good the 3D GHZ looked...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FcDtS1OUEAI&feature=related

There are like, no errors. And it isn't just a dash-fest.

They did good when they made that stage completely 3D

Red Mountain Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9FcTTBh-oI&feature=related

Red Mountain Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bWHRXzI85g&feature=related

What an awesome level.

this topic needz mo' Pyramid Cave homie!!!

E-102 Gamma Theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2sOpyF1nF4

that's rad.

Sonic & Knuckles Title Screen remix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0aPit0iJUU&feature=related

Holy ****, that brings back memories.

Flying Battery Act 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd8G40yhxNQ&feature=related

...I miss Gamma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaTAVFDYVg4

I told you this topic needed it.

One of my favorite tracks in the game.

So I've been going through Youtube and looking at hacks and reskins of 3D Sonic games.

Neat stuff.

This topic grew fast....<.<

And Gamma's theme rules.

Gamma > Omega

Omega is made of metal failure. Gamma is made of metal win.

God damn level layouts...

Let's list every kind of stage theme Sonic games have had! <_<

Water.

Hydrocity Zone FTW.

Pyramid/temple.

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Nothing has failed quite as hard as you just did.

EDIT: I couldn't find the actual image. >_>

I despise all water stages, and that one is at the top of the list. <_<

You fail even more. Get used to that word. It'll haunt you forever.

Fail.

Heh, if you look at the word after a while, it looks weird. Like every other word. >_>

Hydrocity Zone Act 2 > Your opinion

Hydrocity sucks ass, and should burn in hell as the worst stage in Sonic 3.

no u.

Yes me.

Y u?

Cause.

Hydrocity Zone Act 2 > Marble Garden Act 1 & 2

I am dead cereal.

Shao Kahn: "You suck."

Marble Garden sucked ass, at least Act 2 of Hydrocity had underwater tunnel routes and alot of running (if you knew the right routes, you barely ever had to run through water in that level)

Marble Garden didn't have you rely on speed all the time, which I like. <_<

Wrong.

O RLY?

That is indeed how wrong you are.

Wrong.

That is indeed how right you are about being wrong, you're wrong.

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s272/911TheThug/motivator4836966.jpg)

(http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/output/motivator1941268.jpg)

I saw that.

You saw wut?

You deleted your original picture.

And?

Now you made it seem that I was the one putting up pictures.

Your opinion is still wrong.

K

(http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/output/motivator9847120.jpg)

Random question, but Secret Rings...love it or hate it? I...don't really like it that much. I'm not a fan of On-Rails games. Plus, the fact that you were forced to do tedious missions to pass through the story and for some reason, obtain better controls when going through the game is pretty lame. That's why I like the pure platformers better, particularly Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2.

I love how Adam Sessler attacks those games though. Mega failure right there.

The only thing I directly do not like in S&tSR is having to forcefully go through Tutorials, and the control upgrades. <_<

Haven't played Secret Rings yet.

I have played a Sonic game since SA2.... SA2.... <_<

More people need to ''play'' with me...but just teh women >.>

Yeah.... playing SA2 wasn't as fun as I thought it would be.... <_<

>_>

I don't think I'll play with SA2  again v_v

It wasn't really that hard for me.... <_<

>_>

I only make it hard for teh ladies >_>

I played SA2 and regularly do.

But he doesn't notice it.

o_o

....

I mean, I don't.

Not usually.

Only a few times.

o_o

I was find out.

To the pervmobile!

*Flees*

o_o...X_X

XD

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/05/sega_sammys_pro.html

This was from a while ago, but I'd like the bring this up anyways. It was stated somewhere on 1UP (can't find the article) that Sega has a 50/50 chance of being completely gone because of financial problems, or staying together by December. Well, it's now the middle of December.

So..if Sega fails, what'll happen to Sonic? Will he die out? Or will someone buy him?

I swear, if Sega does fail, and someone wants Sonic, it'd better be Nintendo. >_>

I've been waiting for Nintendo to buy SEGA out for a while. >_>

Somehow I doubt that.

What, do you think Sega really is capable?

I say they forget Sammy.
Ever since the merge, It's been downhill.

Because while they admit they had less money than other companies before, to be fair, they were comparing themselves to first party companies. Their games sell well enough despite their past losses to keep them afloat, and they withdrew the Dreamcast to avoid losing too much money from it. Even their bad games tend to sell alright, except Sonic 360. And I'm not just talking about Sonic here when I talk about SEGA, they still have servers up for Phantasy Star Whatever with lots of people on them.

Besides, the normal answer to anything from 1up is usually "lol1up"

And I actually like SEGA <<

True, true.

I blame Sammy. What? I have to blame someone! >_>

You know what?

Who says Sega starts all over again from SA2?!?!? >_>

me sa was awesome  2 was still pretty good though but 360 is pretty dam naff, although the sonic advance sereis was pretty good

Nintendo won't buy SEGA, because no matter how crappy SEGA's games become Sonic's fanboys will continue to buy them.

im not sure i think a few people have lost faith and i think if the games continue badly then they will lose fanboys, although look at the ps3 sony fanboys have still baught that yet its utter rubbish so they may well continue to by the sonic games if they get unplaybly bad (ie sonic 360)

Or how about the superior suggestion of starting over from SA1? Back when the stages didn't look like San Fransisco.

This is excluding the Adventure stages, of course <_<

Your suggestion is the opposite of superior.

*Yawns*

io think they should have stuck with sa1 gameplay which worked instead of always changing it

Besides Sonic and Tails gameplay, the rest wasn't very good. The same with Sonic and Shadow in SA2

i dont know everyone "loved" big the cat, but in reality e102 was pretty awesome

People actually liked Big the Cat? MADNESS!!!

Anyway, yeah E-102 was pretty badass being able to go around destroying multiple robots stronger than himself and not even taking a hit until the last one.

madness! THIS IS SONIC TEAM!

More reasons why Gamma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Omega (a.k.a. Trashbot).

Its kinda weird. I love 102's levels in Adventure but I hate Tail's and Eggman's levels in A2/A2B.

That's cause E-102 had teh mad skillz a.k.a easier and smoother controls

True.

And he is just a cooler character than Eggman or Tails imo.

true, eggman and tails just felt clumsy , slow and a bit boring whereas e102 was well done and quite nimble in comparison

They should make a game with just Sonic and he goes on a preset path and you move him to the left and right and...

Oh wait...

...Sonic Adventure 1 was vastly superior to the second. People only think the second was better because they were fooled into it by having a more in-depth storyline.


I think SA1s story was better. It's entirity was a reference to a past game.

SA1 barely had a story tbqh.

PLOT TWIST

I actually like SA2. I think SA1 is better, but I don't think its vastly superior.

I liked everyone, except Bigs Adventure Mode levels in SA1, only Sonic and Shadows levels in SA2 were any good.

true

I only enjoyed Knuckles' levels because of his music. Pumpkin Hill, Aquatic Mine, and Death Chamber rocked.

Difficult to enjoy Knuckles stage music. If you're ever doing any good, it will be drowned out by that stupid radar.



In Sonic Adventure 2, all that happened was Eggman unfroze Shadow so Shadow would help him get Chaos Emeralds so he could threaten the world with a giant space laser that no one ever knew or cares about for some reason. Shadow has tortured past and blah. blah. blah. Sonic is being chased by the military because most humans appear to have severe colour blindness.

yea.

Sonic Heroes music? I hardly hear anyone talk about that games' music. Heh heh....
the Team Chaotix theme was hot.

*flees*

Sonic Heroes began the downfall, which is why no-one's mentioned it yet >.>

the multi-player mode was awful. Full of lags.

It was all Charmys fault! D:

I seem to be one of the only people in this world who can actually stand him  :P

I used to hate fighting those giant robots with that big hammer.

I would get slaughtered by those things.

Team Blast was the only way to go for the purple ones

Sonic Heroes got things right that SA2 ****ed up though.

Like Stages. The SA2 stages were unimaginative and boring. Sonic Heroes got them a bit better than that.

Sure, Shadow still should have been dead and I still didn't like him or his existence in Heroes, but he wasn't all stupid in Heroes due to personality. Probably because no one said much.

Egg Pawns suck, but are better than generic gaurd mechs. The rest of the designs were awful though. Everyone looks squished and they were all buttered or something.


It also began the slippery gameplay that sucks, and gave us the worst line in the game.


Though it brought the Chaotix back and gave Metal Sonic a spotlight, so yeah.


Overall, the gameplay was bad, the stage designs had potential, the lines were bad, the "stories" were bad.




They're a pain in the ass in Sonic Rush because you have to dash through them 3 TIMES and they flicker with invincibility when you hit them.

And me! >8U

I'm fairly certain Charmybee123 can stand him too.

what worst line? oh wait......I already know. Does it address the word "teamwork"?

But, I have to admit, running from that giant crocodile was fun. Frog Forest or whatever it was called.

The Super Sonic fight was wack. Knuckles and Tails had to fight in a damn BUBBLE. That was wack. And the whole thing looked...........AAAAHH!!!

Overall...........blegack......

"Let's show this creep the real SUPER POWER OF TEAMWORK!"

"WE ALL DID IT TOGETHER!!!"

ack......hmm.......I've heard of more corny lines. *points to High School Musical topic*

RUMORS!!!!

Sonic Shuffle 2

someone said that Super Sonic will take it up a notch when he debuts in his next game. (not SR: Zero Gravity) He takes it to Super Sonic 2, copying Dragon Ball Z Super Sayins. I don't believe any of this.

I liked the "Let's crack that Eggman wide open!" line <_<

Because it's Sonic, and he's making lame puns >_> hur hur hur hur.

Speaking of Masterman's stupid lies.


I don't like it when everyone claims Super Sonic is a "super saiyan rip off". It's a freaking reference, just like the Death Egg was >8U

The references were cool, we need more of them <_<

Didn't the guy only come up with Super Sonic because he was a fan of DBZ?

Yes.

Ahh, I was wondering if that was true or not

lies? They are not lies. More like realistic exaggerations. You see, I study these rumors and analyze them to the most understood degree and comprehend them by rounding to the nearest possible conclusion.

wow....I didn't know I was that smart.

You copied that from somewhere, didn't you?

no..........

maybe.........

possibly.........

I came up with half of it!

Stop lying.

always gotta put me down. $_$

you guys wanna hear a story? (on-topic)
It involves multiple rumors that are real.

Sure, I got nothing better to do

well, it all started yesterday in a dream. SEGA texted me on my phone. My batteries were dead. I fell in a toilet and got washed into SEGA's bathroom stall. My batteries were still dead. I asked an employee about new Sonic games. He said they were working on a Chaotix mission-themed game, Silver the Hedgehog game, and a MMO Sonic game. I got hit in the head by a FeBreeze can and I woke up. I looked at my phone.....5 bars! My friend texted me an hour and a half later, saying that Silver the Hedgehog was in-production. Coincidence? I went online.......to some message boards only to be startled by a Silver the Hedgehog topic. I ran outside and shouted "WHHYYYY!!??" for about 30 seconds and I walked back in, only to find my little cousin playing Silver's story on Sonic Next-gen. I get a call 10 minutes later......my friend asking me if Silver was in Sonic Rider Zero Gravity. 2 seconds later I see Silver getting killed. Next I see a Sonic Rivals 2 commercial, with Silver. I looked at the TV screen, it was silver. I was constantly haunted by Silver images, and I think that a Silver based game is in prodution. God why? I was freaked out yesterday.

copypasta? *smacked*

Anyway, that's weird.

I WAS FREAKED OUT!!! I couldn't get his music out my head either!

Meh.

I stopped reading there. But after scrolling down and multiple repetitions of the word "Silver" caught my eye, I facepalmed.

I can sense your overwhelming energy. It crushes me for I have no more realistic exaggerations. I'll get some more tommorow. But.....Silver is coming with his own game....he's coming. Just you wait.

The absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.

I want to facepalm again, just because I get that absent evidence reference. ( _ _)

where'd it come from?

lol I'm surprised you got it.

That stupid boondocks show.

wow......I wish I could give you something for answering that right. Never thought you would watch that. It's one of my favorite shows. But you gotta admit....it is funny.

I've watched every single episode to this date.

I'm about to hit the sack.....peace

I didn't want to watch it. And I still don't.

you can't deny it from me.

but......just for my own safety, may I ask why?

Boondocks is an ok show.

I haven't been following the topic so I have no idea what is going on but......meh. Same boat I'm usually in.

I hate the Boondocks.

LET'S ALL NEVER TALK ABOUT THE BOONDOCKS EVER AGAIN.


So how about that SEGA tennis (was it tennis? Table tennis? Idano) game that has Sonic? Think it will be any good?

No. >_>

You suck, I love fantasy tennis games <_<

Well...UR DUM.

no

u

Wrong.

You're right, Raizor! It is right! You were right and I was wrong. What a terrible mistake for me to make. Sorry about that.

wut

Only Tennis games I've ever played are Mario Power tennis, Mario Tennis (N64), and Mario Tennis (Virtual Console).

They really good imo, except for the VC one.....but it actually was ok...


SEGA will find a way to make the game suck though. It's their new policy to make any new releases that feature Sonic in any way, shape, or form to be horrible. <_<

Sonic Rush Adventure disagrees with you on all grounds.

Stop abusing your power by editing my posts.

*Expects this post to be edited.*



This post has been deleted by Raizor Blaid.

Sorry, I forgot to put '3D' in my last post. I was only talking about the 3D games. The new 2D ones look pretty good.

Fixed.

Well I haven't played SR.

My friend said the entire game is fighting dinosaurs and listening to emo music. <.<

Dinoaurs are in one level. <_<

And most of the music doesn't have lyrics, or notable ones. one is all "let the speed~ mend it" and the another chants "Dinos! In the Jungle! The wicked wild!" for some stupid reason <_<

Another one says "Whose gonna rock the place? the place? the place? ~" as it's main lyric. But a bunch of them don't have lyrics.


And if you hate Seven Rings in Hand, don't spend too much time in the menus.

I hope Dark Spine Sonic comes back.

Unless they make a direct sequel to Secret Rings, he never will.

............they will.

They have no need to. It ended.

they'll make another one with Silver as the protaganist.

Your posts annoy me now.

alright.

I hope Dark Spine doesn't come back.

i dont know i think in the next wii based game they could start replacing super with dark spines. both dark spines and super sonics are equally awesome so its nice to have a change from super once in a while

I highly doubt they'll replace Super Sonic with Darkspine. -_-

i suppose but its a possibility in some futer wii games untill i remembered the story and so now that i do its pretty dam unlikly

Darkspine better come back. I'm sick of them bringing a character in for one game then forgetting about them. At least they're heading in the right direction by keeping Silver and Blaze.

i suppose it would be good but it was only in the arabian knights (i think i may be wrong) that he became darkspines in the normal world its set in its super sonic

Darkspine is a powered up form using the World Rings. Super is a powered up form using the Chaos Emeralds.

Darkspine isn't a character, he's a form. Some characters and things don't need to come back. Why is having a character appear, serve his purpose, and go away, all in one or two games, a bad thing? It's a lot worse when they force stupid things on the series just so they have an excuse to bring back a character who has no purpose to return.

I can't argue there......

thats true

lolShadow the Hedgehog

<_<

I didn't know people like this existed...

And I *loved* Shadow the Hedgehog (the game, AND the character, yippee!!!),

You know who POLLY is? From the Sonic boards on Gamefaqs?

She's a mega Shadow fangirl. And she pisses me off too.

Yes actually, I've seen that person before. But she's always so stupid is looks like a joke. This person was serious.

Is that person from Gamefaqs? Youtube?

Link plz.

It was GameFAQs. Nothing on Youtube is serious.

I don't have a link.

I haven't seen that Polly girl in ages, reminds me of that time I started a fad on the Shadow the Hedgehog board...good times...

Shadow the Hedgehog was under-rated.

It sucked, but not as bad as most people say it did.


And the character himself was fine, at least until he got his own game.

I've seen her a few times, I actually managed to get him to flame me over for just saying he was a guy pretending to be a girl.

So true.

Guy
In
Real
Life

Oh geez, U R Witty.

So... Sonic Riders 2 comes out soon.

Meh.

Mario Kart Wii looks better anyways. I might get Sonic Riders 2, but the gameplay just doesn't impress me. When I watch the gameplay videos, I feel like I'm watching gameplay videos of the first game, except without the turbulence and with the gravity thing.

I enjoyed Sonic Riders more than any of the Mario Kart games. You can't say you think Mario Kart Wii looks better because the Riders 2 gameplay looks similar to the way it did before, when there's only been like a few seconds of Mario Kart Wii footage, from different angles.

You are insanely pessimistic towards the Sonic series, and it annoys me <_<

Enjoying Sonic Riders more than Mario Kart is like enjoying torture over sex.

And I used to hype up the Sonic games like crazy, and now I'm insanely pessimistic because I don't like his recent games, and I'm not impressed with Sega's...or Sonic Team's to be more specific and accurate...performance.

Sonic Riders was good, obviously not as good as the better platformers, but comparing even the best Mario Kart to Sunshine is silly. Riders actually had more to do, unlike Mario Kart which just had multiple tracks, cups, and difficulties.

By the way, I'm not implying that playing Sonic Riders is torture and that Mario Kart is sex.

>_>

Sex can be a form of torture.

Not that.. I would know.

Mario Kart also had items. And Battle Mode. And more playable characters. And probably more courses. And we actually know it has Online Multiplayer. People today still aren't sure of whether Sonic Riders 2 has Online Multiplayer or just Online Features.

I mean the sex that both partners like.

Or trio and...so on from there. >_>

And Riders had more gear, and those event things with multiple medals you can get, and other SEGA characters. And while we're counting gameplay features, tricks, and turbulence. Turbulence itself being more controversial on the beneficiality.





<_<

And Riders was also faster, and on boards.

Boards > Karts.

Mario Kart had Mario.


Mario>Sonic


<_<

Wrong.

Besides, Mario Kart also had Waluigi. And Daisy.

Sonic Riders had Tails, Amy, Cream, and Shadow.

Only one of those characters is bad. The other is merely "ehhh...".

The tricks made my thumb hurt after a while. >_> Turbulence, as you said, is more controversial, and I thought it was a "meh" feature. Mario Kart's controls surpass Riders controls any day.

Mario Kart just has that classic charm to it that makes people of any age love it. And hey, at least Mario Kart Wii has Online Multiplayer that we actually know of.


Riders also states that Sonic is faster when on a board, which is very annoying because he's known for his super speed on foot.


Riders has Silver and Cream. And it doesn't have Metal Sonic. By the way, I hate Silver now, and I know you do too. >_>

I find them all pretty damn annoying. Then again, I find almost every Sonic character annoying, so whatever. <_<

Mario Kart has a "simplicity" that makes people of any age like it. Mario Kart may have multiplayer, but it's actually more multiplayer oriented, hence it having zero storyline and just being a "jump in and play the tracks" game. Intentional or not, Riders is more single player oriented.


All Sonic games display Sonic as slower. Sonic being slower running when he runs out of air is merely a gameplay mechanic. Otherwise, his using a board can be easily explained by the fact that it was a tournament. With rules. Rules stating they need to use Gear.


It MIGHT have Metal Sonic <_<

Oh, they announced all the characters <_<

Mario Kart does have the single player mode though. Even though it doesn't have a story, you still go through different tracks and maps to unlock various characters. But to me, I think racing games should focus more on multiplayer, hence why I like Mario Kart more (plus, it has better controls. >_>).


No, no, no. I'm talking about the site. It says that Sonic moves faster on the board. That's just ridiculous.

Of course, it's just the site. Whatever, it shouldn't say that. >_>


We pretty much know who's in it though, and Metal Sonic isn't there. Those two stupid robots are (even though they look less stupid from the first game's robots, Metal Sonic is way better than those losers).

I was under the impression you could play through the supposed single player with other people <_<
Then again, I only own Double Dash and MKDS (which I haven't done any sort of local multiplayer on), which would explain it >_>

And the controls aren't that much better. Especially since said Mario Kart controls brought the concept of snaking to the series <_<


Well maybe the board just moves faster than he does? <_<
The only thing saying otherwise is the little "mph" gauge.


Pardon me, but how was it confirmed? I only got a glimpse at the Japanese character site, because this browser is completely terrible and can't even run the ****ing character page without being unresponsive, and those characters were just silhouettes, is it merely fans deducing that those are silhouettes are those robots? <_<

And how the hell is Samba a speed type? The last monkey was a power type <_<

Did they just want to distribute the guest characters evenly?

Snaking is the wavedashing of the Mario Kart series, except it doesn't leave. I'm not sure about Mario Kart Wii. >_>

But the controls for Sonic Riders feels so tight and restricted. It's very annoying.


A stupid little board shouldn't dethrone Sonic. >_>


The characters were actually on the site as soon as it was launched. Well, not directly, but people managed to hack into the site and get the images. Sega said there would be eighteen characters, and we have eighteen characters. Check Wikipedia to see who's in, as I don't feel like going to it. It's actually right. >_>

No. Snaking, unlike Wavedashing, is extremely gamebreaking. You can beat someone who wavedashes without wavedashing, it isn't that important. But it is impossible to beat a Snaker without snaking. MKDS's online play was destroyed because of it.



Sonic's title is the fastest thing alive. Boards are not alive.

And I just saw the intro to Zero Gravity. Wtf. Why do they have a flying car?

They mentioned GUN. Damnit. I was hoping they were pulling away from that stuff. The Rushes, the first Riders, and Secret Rings all acted as though the human world didn't exist. I do honestly wonder who they can make the hyper futuristic cities of the Riders series make any sense at all when just in SA2, they were in present-day like cities. It made more sense in Riders because it looked like they were just ignoring the humans <_<

I mean in the sense that they're both infamous for being something found by the players by taking advantage of the game's engine.


I don't care. Sega shouldn't have made an inanimate object be faster than their icon.

That doesn't mean anything. My point is that MK's "superior controls" gave a us a gamebreaking ability.


Eggman was faster than Sonic in the old games. Things being faster than Sonic isn't a big deal. Bullets are inanimate and they move faster. Lots of things in real life can move faster than Sonic in his own games. <_<

I honestly don't get the Sonic series anymore. First, there was something about Mobius (though that whole thing is cleared up now. They must be on Earth). Then Sonic gets into a present-day time. Okay, that's great. Then he magically appears in some futuristic city. Uh, okay? Then back to the regular time, as shown in Sonic Next-Gen. Now back to the future (no pun intended)? Plus, there was Sonic Heroes which had a more goofy tone to it and made it seem like humans didn't exist. Same goes with Sonic Rivals and Sonic Rivals 2. Then there's Sonic Rush and blah blah blah.

Did Sonic Next Gen specifically say "Earth"?

And they were never on Mobius, no such thing has ever existed in the canon series <_<


The only thing that makes sense is a warped Earth, with floating islands and genesis esque environments in addition to futuristic cities and human environments.

And the old games had futuristic cities too. The only thing that breaks the norm is the human earth environments.

Who cares, Mario Kart 64 was the best out of all of them. >_>

That did have some snaking, but it barely did anything as it was very hard to do since the controls were slightly different. However, after you learn how to snake in the new games, it gets pretty fun and makes you more active in the game. Those stupid casuals should just shut up and lern2snake. >_>


Quiet you!

By the way, I'm talking about in his games. Eggman doesn't count because Eggman is awesome.

It's pretty bad when your skill at a game is dependant on a single technique <_<


The light, from the sun, moves faster than Sonic. There's a sun in Sonic games. o noez!

I'm pretty sure Sega attempted to make the game more realistic or something by directly saying themselves that it takes place on earth even though no such city exists. I'm sure it takes place on Earth though.


I know, hence why I said, "it was cleared up."


Yes, but futuristic cities mixed with present-time cities is...annoying. I'd prefer it being Earth with floating islands, genesis esque environments with present day cities and communities. I'm personally not a big fan of the whole futuristic crap unless it involves Eggman in Sonic's case.

By the way, people, Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog and the Rivals games were all made by SEGA of America (even though the Rivals games were made in Canada I think, I'm pretty sure there's no SEGA of Canada), whilst the old games, I think the Adventure games, the Rushes, Secret Rings and sonic 06 were all made by SEGA of Japan, if by SEGA at all.

I think <<



Some cities get technology sooner than others. Some places are poor.

It's better than, "Haha, I press button and move analog stick and attack with button! Yay I win!"


But Sonic doesn't ride the sun. Or a bullet. Or Eggman (wow, I just had a very disturbing image, and I'm sorry if I gave you one too). >_>

I'm not saying there shouldn't be things that are faster like Sonic, even though that's how it came out as. I'm saying that there shouldn't be anything to enhance his speed.

And the Riders games are made by a non-Sonic Team Japanese SEGA division.


Your quotes suck. Screw them.


First one: Except that isn't how it is. When neither are using analog sticks, the environment, your reaction times, your luck with items, they all affect it. When you're snaking... None of that matters. Snaker wins.

Second one: He's only using something else because it's the rules of the tournament and actually keep up with his competition. And so he can alter gravity.

Yes but...flying cars? Well, I guess it's plausible seeing how how there are a few places on Earth that have a community similar to that of the American frontier hundreds of years ago. >_>

By the way, Rush Adventure was made by Sega of America.

Sonic 1-3&K, SA, Sonic 06, SatSR: Sonic Team JPN
Sonic R, Sonic 3D: Traveller's Tales
SA2, SH, Shadow: Sonic Team USA
Riders, Riders 2: UGA division of Sonic Team JPN
Rivals 1, 2: Backbone
Sonic Rush: Dimps/Sonic Team JPN collaboration (mostly Dimps)
Sonic Rush Adventure: Sonic Team JPN/Dips collaboration (mostly Sonic Team)


...Sonic Team USA made Sonic Adventure 2. That explains the unoriginal Shadow and the soul-less stage design.


And the only console games Sonic Team USA has made are the mentioned Sonic games above, and NiGHTS 2. Huh.




Source. Wikipedia tells the difference between Console games made by the Japanese division and the American one, but they mesh all the handheld ones together. They usually just write "Sonic Team" for the JPN, and write "Sonic Team USA" for the American.

1. That's because Snakers are winners. Oh whatever, I highly doubt majority of the people who play Mario Kart even know what snaking is other than the hardcores. Hell, almost all of my friends don't know how to freaking do a mini boost. However, you are right about it destroying Online Play, but they're no better than disconnectors. Still, I stand by what I say about Sonic Rider's controls. They are very tight and I have little to no sense of freedom. Of course, it shouldn't be too much as the game would get too loose, but I'd rather not have my character have a hard time moving left or right. It's not THAT hard, but it is very irritating.

2. I know it's the rules of the tournament. I'm just saying that he shouldn't go faster on it. I can understand it going very fast, but come on, faster than Sonic? That's absurd. Still, I'm sure they're just exaggerating it on the site just to make the game look good. -_-

By the way, Dimps is located in Japan, it would be difficult for Dimps, a Japanese company, and Sonic Team USA to collaborate.

Ignore what I said. I remembered seeing somewhere that Sega wanted to appeal to American gamers, so they made Sonic Team USA to make it. >_>

Therefore, every Sonic game made by STJPN (except one <_<) was super awesome.

And STUSA has made two bad games, one pretty good game, and one game I haven't played that I'm getting soon <_<


And Backbone sucks >_>

How does that even make sense? <_<

Indeed.


To be honest with you, I have no idea. I was wondering what was up with that myself when I read it. It's BS though, so there's no need to worry about it.

Wow, amazing how one bump stirs up such a conversation. >_>

Wow, Sonic Team USA is in the same building as G4. That explains all the suck.

I actually laughed at that. The irony of that is just simply hilarious.

Sonic Team USA is loaded with Japanese people, wtf o_O


And Jun Senoue? But his music was in the old games, did he switch over?

Kazuyuki Hoshino (art director),


*smites for no real art*


Nobuhiko Honda (character artist),


*smites for unoriginal character designs*


Jun Senoue (music composer),


*smites for switching over*


Atsushi Saito (motion designer),


*smites because I don't know what that is*

Huh, I guess Sega didn't go bankrupt. >_>

Where'd you get that? <_<

Sorry, I thought I posted this before. There was a 50/50 chance of Sega going bankrupt in December 2007. It was an article from 1UP, but I don't like navigating that site.

You know, for some reason I feel bad for the guys at Sega. >_>

Yeah you said that, I was wondering where you found out they actually didn't. You looked like you only just found out for certain.


Or are you just realizing it isn't December anymore?

I forgot about the whole bankrupt thing until now when you started mentioning Sonic Team USA.

Yuji Naka's profile confuses me. It doesn't say if he was in Sonic Team or STUSA, yet it said he "intended to create his own game studio, independent of Sega and Sega Studio USA (a.k.a. Sonic Team USA)", which would imply he was in STUSA. But he did the original Sonic games, which were made by STJPN.

Well, he did know English I believe. He could have switched easily.

Ah! STUSA is in San Francisco! I knew it, I've always said City Escape looked like San Francisco!

>_>

Yeah, it's really late and I should've gone to sleep hours ago.

I'm staying up all night <_<

I was wondering why you were up this late, what time is it there?

4:30. >_>

You?

Well, any city with lots of hills would look like city escape.

THink about it... the city he escapes from must be located 5 miles into the sky. I mean he runs down AT LEAST 3 miles of hill.

<_< Didn't ask me but...

It's 10:32 am here. I just got up after a good nights sleep.

Bah, I'm going to end up waking up at like 2 in the afternoon. >_>

Damn you, Raizor!

Yuji Naka's Prope studio is in Japan now too, what a confusing fellow.

I didn't know it was still part of SEGA though. It's listed here, but it's probably only because he's 10% funded by SEGA.


If you don't mind, I'm going to ramble on about my findings all night, k? k.



Well, it was more the designs of the mail boxes and those weird train-like things that go alone the road on a rail are what made me think of it more.
Glitch through the barriers and you'll find it is located in the sky, hurhur <_<



10:32? I thought you were 4 hours ahead of me, not 5.



5:30 <<




I always wake up a 2 in the afternoon. Today I woke up at 6 in the evening, though it was New Years the night before, so whatever <_<

Thing is though, I love waking up in the morning. >_>

SEGA made up their own term, 1.5 party <_<

And just just 3 years ago sold this 1.5 party developer of theirs for like 24 mill, I don't think they're 1up knew what they were talking about.

I'm on wikipedia though, if anyone couldn't tell <_<

"Success again (2006)
By the end of 2005, Sega experienced strong earnings growth across multiple divisions. Contributing to the company's success were strong pachinko sales[3], and sales of software titles Ryu Ga Gotoku (known as Yakuza outside of Japan), Mushiking, and Sonic the Hedgehog."


I thought Sonic 06 sold poorly?

K
Hmm... interesting indeed.

Apparently it's 5. Either that, or my clock has screwed me over.

Apparently it sold well in japan... Or the definition of success has changed since I last read a dictionary.

"Alhough Sega seemed poised to continue increasing profits, the company reported a massive drop of 93% profits for the period ending June 30, 2006 compared to the same period last of year. Net income for the company dropped from $98.3 million (a year earlier) to $7.12 million for this period ending"


...Oh.

"Despite this, Sega reported in November a massive 52% rise in profits for the periods between April and September 2006, compared to the same period last year. [14] Software sales for the company had also increased with 5.75 million. Of those units, 1.76 million were sold in Japan, 1.59 million in Europe, 2.36 million in the US and 30,000 in other regions. [15] a number of titles were said to have performed well"


Oh!

Maybe I just assumed it's 4 because you live in Europe, and 4 hours ahead of me is the only European time zone I know.


Well, Famitsu did give it a good score.

This stupid article has absolutely nothing on 2007.

Dare I say, holy ****! They dropped around 90 million dollars!

I guess no one wanted to update the wikipedia page.

I know! They got pretty much owned. They said they lost so much money because of no major releases.

and yikes, the president of SoJ in 2000 died shortly after the Dreamcast was continued <_<


How many presidents does SoJ have? According to this, there were 3 presidents during 2000, not at different times either.

"Welcome to the next level"

Apparently that's their slogan, I didn't know that <_<

This Wiki article still has Yuji Naka as notable game designers, someone needs to bring this thing up to date.

Anyways, I suppose that's enough browsing on that subject...

Doesn't having more than one president of SoJ kind of defeat the purpose of a president that decides stuff on his own?

Sega has a slogan?

It does. Not only that, I couldn't find anything on any president that was still with them after 2001.



Apparently.

So perhaps they went from having 3 to having... none?


I always thought their "slogan" was just that guy saying "Sega!"

Staying up on the day I have to go back to school? <_<

If that isn't taunting, I don't know what is.

lolpurists.

Hines:

Raizor:

Hines:

Raizor:

Sonic Team of Japan better do a good job. >_>

I can't imagine them not. Even Sonic 06 could have been good from a gameplay perspective if they didn't rush it to meet the holiday shopping rush.

Wouldn't have saved the god awful storyline though.

Lets this be a lesson to all: Rushing things, creates crap.

And if you're gonna do an epic story, try not to... put too much fail into it.

They should make a list of story elements that fail and then send them to every developer in the world.

THings like pairing an anthropomorphic mutant blue hedgehog with a human girl.

Edit: Oh wait, Spoilers.

And killing off your main character and then reviving him later.

End spoilers.

That as well.

Saying that a character is from another world, but then changes it to her being from another time line, but then changing it back to being from another world, YET AGAIN.

And.. Oh spoilers again.

Then killing her and bringing her back too.


End spoilers.

Lets just say that

Killing many of the main characters and then bringing them back got old after it was done for the umpteenth time

Same goes for the angsty anti-heroes <<

Anti-heroes = good

Angsty anti-heroes = Old

Shadow in SA2 - Good
Shadow post-SA2 - Very bad. He should stay in spin-offs. >_>

DBZ killed it.

He was still unoriginal and had a terrible character design in SA2, he was just bearable because he was a one shot character who fell to earth and exploded and died because he sucked.

His backstory was still good though. Better than that "OLOLO I GOTZ T3H BLACK ARMZ BLUD IN ME LULZ DAT MAKEZ ME GANGSTA AT HART YO" crap in Shadow the Hedgehog.

Shadow is indeed an unoriginal character, in terms of design. Back in SA2, he was pretty cool. I liked him.

In heroes and afterwards, he was completely assasinated in terms of personality though.

Government creation isn't original <_<

I didn't say it's original. I said it was better than the crap I just mentioned. >_>

Nyeh <_<

You have to admit that they made it WAY too complicated and they even made it worse than how it already was. I mean, come on, alien blood? That's just as bad as how in the Archie Comics, Shadow was found by aliens when he fell after his battle with the Biolizard. >_>

You should feel bad for knowing what happens in the Archie Comics.

I looked up Shadow's article on Wikipedia. Other than that, I don't even understand what goes on in those stupid comics that degrade Sonic even more.

*looks at current page*

*sees people hating on Shadow*

*is not surprised at all*

As long as they stop making him lose his memory, act 'badass', drive vehicles, and use guns I'm fine with him.


Although they should bring back his ability to rip out stop signs and beat people to death with them. That was fun.

I agree.

I agree too, beating people with "Stop" signs or "One Way" signs is really really fun <_<

Vehicles are meh. I mean, what kind of character that runs at the speed of sound needs a freaking motorcycle!?

Stop signs were fun. Just as long as they don't have ammo. >_>

I could never figure out why the stop signs had ammo.

.......Its a ****ing stop sign. Why the hell does it have ammo?

I dunno. Maybe they were trying to be realistic and make the stop sign secretly wear out or something. >_>

Swords wear out, too?

It wore out after you swung it five times.

It wouldn't wear out THAT fast....

Them aliens have hard skin.

>_>

Melee-type weapons with ammo = FAIL

Let's just suppose... a Zelda game <_< Ever 3-4 striked the freaking sword breaks or just dissapears on a crappy animation. That's wrong.

Sonic 2 just froze on me <_<

I was in Hill Top Zone, and I went off a ramp and broke a monitor and bounced off that, and bounced from the monitor to an enemy, and as soon as I hit the enemy, the game froze.

So yeah, let's talk about Sonic 2.

Sonic 2 is sweet. I love going Super Saiyan Sonic on Emerald Hill Zone

Sonic 2 had Emerald Hill.

Bite me. My bad. Edited. Thanks.

Three cheers for SEGA bug testing.

I'm on the "press + button" to continue screen at the beginning of Zero Gravity, and it doesn't work. I can't do anything but press home <_<

I've pressed + multiple times on both of my controllers, they ARE on. I've pressed everything and nothing works but home in-game.

Take your GCN controllers out.

Yeah, I just read the manual, and it's still stupid. When the GCN controllers are in, you use them, so why the **** do they give you a "press +" screen?

Meh, perhaps you can use the GCN controllers, and for some stupid reason when they're plugged in the game uses them.

Zero Gravity sucks.

A lot.

Figures.

They took out my favorite parts of the last game...

What parts were those?

The ability to button mash for tricks mid-air, that challenge mode thingy with the gold, silver, and bronzes, and the colour. Now it's all drab.


Maybe I haven't unlocked the challenge thing yet. But still.

Man, that mode was long in the first game. It was like 3/4 of the whole game

Jawo liked it. >_>

Jawo doesn't count.

or does he?

so i herd upgraded haz no tast en sonix musk

so i herd u liek need to stop overposting things

so i herd raizor wuz wachen sonic bastardized

in wut?

Stop just looking at this post and respond damn it! >8U

I wasn't looking, I just kept the tab open <_<

Why could Knuckles inexplicably float in the sonic movie?

Because the writers were high.

Anyway.

Sonic Bastardized is one of those things on Youtube where people take an existing movie or show, and add their own voice overs and sound effects. This one is for the Sonic movie.

Oh my, that SEGA Superstars Tennis game teaser is awesome <_<

Link pl0x?

Let me see if it's on Youtube...

Yup.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oyYvvmulqsk


How does a company succeed in making a teaser trailer for a tennis spinoff game look better than some of their major games?

'Twas alright.

...Reala is playable?

This is going to be the best crossover game in March.

Oh wait..

Lol @ Sonic owning Eggman.

That looked pretty good. Then again, Sonic Next-Gen also looked good. >_>

Whatever, this game has spiked some interest out of me.

*slams glass on table*
If this game does not play exactly like that trailer, I'm not buying it >8U

Are you talking about me being interested in this game only because of the trailer? No, I'm interested in it because I like Sega crossover games. The trailer just made it look cool. >_>

Well actually, my post had absolutely zero to do with you or your posts.

'K, never mind. >_>

Well, here is the supposed character list. (It's from Wikipedia lulz)

From Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog
Miles "Tails" Prower
Amy Rose
Dr. Eggman
Shadow the Hedgehog
 
From Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Alex Kidd

From Jet Grind/Set Radio
Beat
Gum

From Space Channel 5
Ulala
Pudding

From Samba de Amigo
Amigo

From NiGHTS into Dreams
NiGHTS
Reala

From Super Monkey Ball
Aiai
Meemee



T'is 15 characters, and there are supposed to be 16. Though I've heard a character from Shinobi is also playable.

One thing I don't like about SEGA is how they always reveal all the characters before the game comes out <_<

Wait, there might be more than 16 characters... SEGA's site says 16, but it also says 10 courts, which conflicts with a magazine article...

Okay, if they make Shadow playable and not Knuckles...>8U

But yeah, I agree how they reveal characters before the game comes out. Pretty lame IMO.

Shouldn't Knuckles also be on that list?

Yes, he should be, but he isn't. I can almost understand putting Shadow in over him, not because it makes sense, but because SEGA always does that... But Amy?

Should replace Shadow and Amy with Knuckles and Metal tbqh. Sonic and Tails could be for doubles, Eggman and Metal, and Knuckles would be alone because he's a loner and nobody likes him.

Meh, SEGA just goes with how well the characters are liked and Shadow is just after Sonic (which isn't really that surpising cause: Hedgehogs > All)

But Metal Sonic and Knuckles must be more popular than Amy!

Maybe it's just becuase she's the main female character and they don't wanna be sexist on the Sonic side

Could have added Blaze <_<

That's true. >_>

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1732
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1330

I would also post a link to that Gamefaqs poll asking "Who's your favorite Sonic character?" with Knuckles winning, but I'm too lazy to look for it.

I also REALLY don't understand how Shadow is the second-most popular character.

Cause he's a hedgehog with abilities to match Sonic with additional powers and: Hedgehogs > All

I wasn't talking about real people, I was talking about the characters.

And Knuckles winning a "who's your favorite sonic character?" poll? That's pure blasphemer.

He's an emo bastard. I mean, he has red markings on his wrists for God's sake!

Actually, no. I just hate Shadow. I mean, that's my opinion, but I also think he should've stayed dead. Too bad Sega decided to cliché-it-up a little and bring him back to life because of the stupid rabid fanboys that probably sent Sega death threats if they didn't bring him back. He stole Knuckles' role, and Knuckles is my favorite character. Actually, Knuckles was my favorite character until Sega ****ed up his personality by making him a hothead. He was just gullible, but he was barely hot-headed. Just as a badass jackass.

SPOILERS FOR SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG (game)
The way Shadow survived was also stupid. Eggman sends a robot to save him. Whoop-de-doo.
END SPOILERS

I liked Shadow in SA2 though. He wasn't a loser in that game.

Meh, Shadow's gone back to his old personality now anyway (just without the Maria stuff) in that new Sonic game for the PS3 and 360...too bad it sucked

Except he did. It was about characters from Sonic Adventure though, and that's where Knuckles was at his prime. If there was a poll about Sonic characters in general, Knuckles would be in near last with Amy, Silver, or Rouge in last. >_>

Maybe, but I just don't understand why he works for G.U.N. >_>

I guess they just had to give him something to do, like how Knuckles is always off looking for pieces of the Master Emerald

But Metal Sonic was in Sonic Adventure! >8U

For like 5 seconds. >.>

*looks at number of replies*

I'm going to get the 500th reply if I have to abuse my mod powers to do it.


He was also playable <_<