Ultimate Paradise

Well, Tite is definitely a better writer than Kishimoto. >_>

Tite forgot how to write.

I like how Renji explodes in blood and doesn't die. <_<

Hitsugaya > All.

Kenpachi's the only one worth talking about.

<__<

Well, Tite is definitely a better writer than Kishimoto. >_>

Conversely, that was also one of the dumbest powerups.
But, He's awesome so it doesn't matter.

Spoilers, I guess.
Also, the captains coming to save the main characters was stupid. They beat them all, so why can they beat someone they couldn't? Especially when they didn't have any discernible power-up.

Actually, Kubo is just as bad as Kishimoto.

Have you noticed the similarities between Hueco Mundo and Soul Society? Yeah, "Let's break in and rescue my friend!" Both of which SHOULD be able to hold their own in a fight (one of which is excusable, since she was dealing with her superiors), but Orihime should be able to pick up and fight when she really needs to, Considering she has the most broken power in the whole manga/anime.

The battles aren't really that well written. Here's how it usually goes:
Bad guy beats up Good guy. Good guy attacks maybe a couple times, but it fails.
Good guy gets beat up past what anyone should live through, gets up and powers up, then beats the guy.

Plus, Zanpakuto's are far too limited. With 2 releases each, Kubo severely limited the growth his characters can have (Except for Uryu and Chad, who's limits to their powers are undefined). And power ups like "I found my resolve!" are dumb. You should have had it the first place, dummy.

Erm, I thought of something else, but I forgot. >_>

Actually, Kubo is much worse than Kishimoto.

Have you noticed the similarities between Hueco Mundo and Soul Society? Yeah, "Let's break in and rescue my friend!" Both of which SHOULD be able to hold their own in a fight (one of which is excusable, since she was dealing with her superiors), but Orihime should be able to pick up and fight when she really needs to, Considering she has the most broken power in the whole manga/anime.

The battles aren't really that well written. Here's how it usually goes:
Bad guy beats up Good guy. Good guy attacks maybe a couple times, but it fails.
Good guy gets beat up past what anyone should live through, gets up and powers up, then beats the guy.

Plus, Zanpakuto's are far too limited. With 2 releases each, Kubo severely limited the growth his characters can have (Except for Uryu and Chad, who's limits to their powers are undefined). And power ups like "I found my resolve!" are dumb. You should have had it the first place, dummy.

Erm, I thought of something else, but I forgot. >_>

Well, no one can get anymore useless than Chad. >_>

One small fix, but I agree. Kishimoto is creative, at the very least.

Regardless, Nobody showed off any new abilities past what they had before they went there. Kenpachi just used something he learned a while back at the request of his superior. Renji should be nearly the same level as Ichigo, and with Uryu, they should be stronger than Ichigo. And they couldn't beat the number 8 guy? While Ichigo beat the number six guy by himself? The power levels are out of whack.

Of course Ichigo IS the main character... but Renji is the main character's friendly rival, who SHOULD be equal or around the same strength. (Of course, this makes Renji viable for a captain position, which I think he would be fine at. Why haven't they promoted him?)

Because Ichigo's reached a higher level over power than them by controlling his Vizard powers. He's only been able to win against any of the arrancar in Hueco Mundo by putting that mask on.

Uryu meanwhile was only able to beat a captain by using the Quincy Final Form and sacrificing his powers in the process. Having only just got them back, I'm guessing he doesn't want to lose them again. As for Renji, yes he's powerful, but there's a huge gap of power between captain & lieutenant. Kubo essentially said himself (through one of the characters) that the captains of the Gotei 13 are the backbone of Soul Society's fighting force. So yes, he's powerful, but it would seem that all the captains are still more powerful than he is. Plus, they all have way more experience, apart from possibly Kenpachi, but he became a captain through pretty unique circumstances.

And don't forget that when fighting the 8th Espada, Renji was unable to use his bankai. At first, anyway. By the time the limit on his & Uryu's powers were lifted, they were both really worn down while the Espada had barely moved and was able to heal himself by eating his subordinates. All of Ichigo's fights were straight-off 1-on-1 encounters with no limiters like that and I think he would've been beaten by Nnoitra if Nel & Kenpachi hadn't stepped in. Let's not forget how badly Ulquiorra owned Ichigo without even using his zanpakuto, and with Ichigo using both his bankai and Hollow mask. He would've died right then if Grimmjow hadn't turned up with Orihime.

There are a lot of factors to consider with Bleach battles & power levels. Why does no-one ever pay attention to them?

Thats so true >_>...

I mean they hold out with so much info.
They haven't even had a shikai release for Hisagi, and he's been featured so many times it ridiculous.

I never could get into one piece, it seemed to kiddy to me...IMO

Don't worry, I read your post. >_>
I see what you mean, and don't really have anything against that.

But still, With those hyped up Vizard abilities, you'd think he'd go on an owning rampage and generally be tons of awesome but noooo... He has to get owned by someone who isn't even the strongest... >_>

Why did the old captains even become Vizards? >_>

I'm up to date on the manga and I don't understand how thats happened.

Well, if Ulquiorra did used to be a Vasto Lorde, then chances are that the top three Espada, being more powerful than him, were Vasto Lordes too. Now, considering that just ten Vasto Lordes would apparently be enough to defeat all of Soul Society, I'd say the captains & lieutenants need all the help they can get. This leads me to believe that not only will the Vizard get involved, but so will Kisuke, Yoruichi, Tessai and (possibly) Ichigo & Uryu's dads.



Are you sure you're up to date?

Spoilers
Right now, in the flashback, all the captains & lieutenants that become Vizards are currently incapacitated with Hollow masks forming on their faces. It hasn't explained what caused it yet, but it explains how they became Vizard.

lolRockLee

At least Rock Lee is awesome and Chad isn't.

I never could get into one piece, it seemed to kiddy to me...IMO

He does have a personality. It's just a very cold and unemotional one.

Well, we didn't know Nnoita had a story to him until he fought Kenpachi. Same with Grimmjow until he fought Ichigo in Hueco Mundo. Maybe we'll learn something about Ulquiorra when Ichigo fights him.

Question: How is Bleach so much less creative than Naruto?

Well I think *click*

Wait a minute, I'm arguing on the internet over a story...
hrghghrbll
*snap*
WATCH NARTO AND B A REEL MAN

>_>

I didn't read the whole topic, so I don't know if this has been answered yet, but I feel the need to reply.

A. In the beginning of the show the main character gets powers from a mysterious girl who's job it is to send spirits to the afterlife. With these powers the main character aids the girl in doing this job and fight "bad spirits" (hollows or demons)

In case you didn't figure it out, this applies to both Bleach and Yu Yu Hakusho. In fact, Shonen Jump initially rejected Bleach for being to similar, and it wasn't until Toriyama himself read it and wrote a reccomendation to SJ to publish it that they did.

B. Soul Society=Hueco Mundo. Each arc is almost exactly the same. If you deny this, I'll explain it, but I hope you can realize that yourself.

If you want to be a real man, watch Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. That's a manly anime.

If you want to be a real man, watch Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. That's a manly anime.



...you know, I never drew that connection before.

Well, if you're going to bring YYH into this.
YYH = One Piece >>> >>>>>>>Bleach >>>Naruto


Ok, so maybe Bleach isn't that much better than Naruto.
At least with Bleach you get consistent quality. Once again, my major problem with Kishimoto is that he took a once great series and drove it into the ground with his constant Uchiha worship and lack of focus on several much more interesting characters.

Personally I thought the first arc of Bleach was 50x better than the rest.


<_< >_>

Ok, so maybe Bleach isn't that much better than Naruto.

Yes, it is. Bleach is much better than Naruto, despite having a few flaws. Naruto has millions of flaws.

Sasuke taking part in at least 10.000 of them.

Actually, I have to say you're wrong here.

It's not that Naruto has millions are flaws, it's just that Naruto's flaws seem bigger because it has not been written in a way that limits itself, while Bleach has been written in a way so that some of it's flaws can't be fixed without it become Dues ex machina, or breaking it's preset laws without seeming stupid. It was almost pushing it with the Shinigami-Hollow blurring thing, but it's still acceptable. If it were, to say, add a third release out of nowhere, it would just seem pulled out the backside.

What I'm saying is, While Bleach has let Ichigo pretty much grow to his (Disappointingly low) max, (as soon as he masters the hollow transformation thing) Naruto simply just hasn't let Naruto grow enough yet. (Although, by author comments, it is coming)

Shadow clone feint and then Rasenshuriken is only going to last so long, as will Hollow Transformation and then red Getsuga Tenshou.

Naruto could be better, but Bleach has got to pull something out fast, or it's gonna run itself into the ground.

So Bleach > Naruto, but's it's not so far behind. If you ask me, both could be better, And I'm waiting for the start of the next arcs to see if they'll redeem themselves.

And I didn't even talk about other things! I'm a bad fan. >_>

Actually, I have to say you're wrong here.

It's not that Naruto has millions are flaws, it's just that Naruto's flaws seem bigger because it has not been written in a way that limits itself, while Bleach has been written in a way so that some of it's flaws can't be fixed without it become Dues ex machina, or breaking it's preset laws without seeming stupid. It was almost pushing it with the Shinigami-Hollow blurring thing, but it's still acceptable. If it were, to say, add a third release out of nowhere, it would just seem pulled out the backside.

What I'm saying is, While Bleach has let Ichigo pretty much grow to his (Disappointingly low) max, (as soon as he masters the hollow transformation thing) Naruto simply just hasn't let Naruto grow enough yet. (Although, by author comments, it is coming)

Shadow clone feint and then Rasenshuriken is only going to last so long, as will Hollow Transformation and then red Getsuga Tenshou.

Naruto could be better, but Bleach has got to pull something out fast, or it's gonna run itself into the ground.

So Bleach > Naruto, but's it's not so far behind. If you ask me, both could be better, And I'm waiting for the start of the next arcs to see if they'll redeem themselves.

And I didn't even talk about other things! I'm a bad fan. >_>

Well, Kubo could introduce new stuff, but chances are that you'd just dismiss them as deus ex machinas.

Eh, I have faith in Kubo. He hasn't let me down so far, and neither has Oda. Kishimoto, on the other hand...

Since this has basically become a bleach discussion topic, I'm changing the title to the official bleach topic.

That one's fine, because it's not unbelievable. It was ok since it said he learned it a while back, I'm sure he practiced with it for that kind of situation.

But, in Ichigo Vs. Kenpachi in soul society, where Ichigo takes an acid trip into his mind to talk to his sword, it felt more like a cop-out to give Ichigo the almost-win.
He went from sure to lose, to them both being KO'd.

Hmm... *Hacks it to sound less negative*

I was wondering when we got a Bleach topic.


And personally, I like that character limits are more present in Bleach.

Depends what you mean by "best".

Chad's powers really interest me too. I just wish they would do more with him.

SPOILERS
For example, when he fought that awesome afro guy (>_>), he gets a new badass power with two arms. Then he gets owned by a current Espada. That really bothered me.
END SPOILERS

Though I always like to image Chad's powers taking over his whole body to make him look badass and even more powerful. >_>

Eh, maybe Tite's got something up his sleeve.

So hold on...

If Aizen did all that bad stuff back then...and was a captain later on...

How did he not get caught?!

I don't get how Ichigo can stop a zanpaktou that has the power of 1000, and at that power x10 on contact...with a shikai...and yet...with a his hollow mask, and in bankai...can't even beat ulquiorra

Then this whole time Ichigo hasn't really been getting much stronger.
He still has to rely too much on others to get what he needs done, done.
Then he angsts that he couldn't protect anyone.

It's ok to rely on others some, but when you can't get anything done on your own, you need to step it up.

The only person who has a good note in my book so far is rukia, because how she came back so dramatically in her fight against the arrancar.

(v '_') THAT was pure pwnage.

So, According to MASSIVE spoilers...
SRSLY DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE.
Ganju is Ichigo's freaking UNCLE If not, More like cousin. Because Ichigo's dad's former name was Shiba Isshin, and he was captain of squad 0.

Topic on Arlong Park.

OF COURSE they could be wrong, but it would explain...
Spoiler'd for connections to the other spoilers. <_<
why Ichigo looks exactly like Kaien-dono (lulz), which you knew was too much of a coincidence to not be true.

After a bit of snooping, these spoilers aren't confirmed yet.

This fight is going to be so interesting...

But wait...weren't Vizards a disgrace in Soul Society?

Hold on....

Did the new Captain in the Filler Anime appear in the manga when all the captains and lieutenants were ready for Aizen???

If the Vizards fight against Aizen, Perhaps they won't have to hide from soul society any more, As they would have proved that they don't act like hollows.

Momo wasn't there cause she's crazy. <_<

I think that Izuru, and Momo are comforting each other. Aizen and Gin will be owning someone, and then the two of them will miraculously join the battle and stop their attacks against somebody...and a huge message will appear saying Momo, and Izuru have joined the brawl >_>

Yamamoto pisses me off. >_>

He's a cranky old man who follows the stereotype of all old men being wise and powerful.

Then again, it's good to know that at least Bleach doesn't follow the idea that only teenagers are powerful whereas adults are mindless of everything.

...So, do you like anyone being really powerful?

So as far as you're concerned, only Kenpachi & Gin should be powerful?

Chad should be powerful.

It's crap that he isn't. Because Chad is awesome.

I never said that...I meant that Kenpachi and Gin are my favorite powerful characters.

Chad's powers are the only ones that haven't been given any real depth. Even Orihime's powers have had more attention than his, and I actually find his more interesting, since they seem to be connected with Hollows.

Chad interested me a whole lot, with the devils left arm...but then he got pwned, and I thought of him useless again >_>

Problem is, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I mean, if Ichigo had trouble beating Grimmjow, Chad wouldn't stand a chance against Nnoitra...

How do you think he'd do against Yammy?

Yeah, Yammy's pretty weak. Bankai Ichigo literally owned him. >_>

Hueco Mundo is fail in general.
Anything that happens there, is fail. No matter what.

Anything that happens in the real world, however, is at least somewhat interesting.

Exception to the rule: Anything that happens involving Kenpachi Zaraki is win. No matter where it happens.


Is it just me, or has Bleach slowed down a lot? It seems ever since the "Turn Back the Pendulum arc" ended, it's been crawling at such a slow pace.

Exception to the rule: Anything that happens involving Kenpachi Zaraki is win. No matter where it happens.

That was by far Kenpachi's worst fight.

Oh yeah, his other fights were much better. And as slightly anti-climactic as the ending was (Lol, I was holding back. Let me get serious so I can pwn you. A.K.A I'm Not Really Left Handed ), it was still badass.
Besides, Kenpachi has always had a history of holding back to make his fights last longer. When other characters do it, it's the author giving them a cheap win by suddenly making them more powerful. When Kenpachi Zaraki does it, it's one of his character traits. In fact, it's well known to be one of his biggest personality traits. So it shouldn't be that big of a surprise.
Although at this rate, Kenpachi is running out of ways to hold back.

But that doesn't stop him from being a badass.

*inb4kenpachiusingabankai*

And I bet he will cooly say after he says to his sword I coulda done it without you and walkaway all bad ass

...

Keigo for the win.

I hate them both.

Chad FTW.

Chad would be more awesome if Tite actually used him. >_>

Actually he didn't capture Ganju. Ganju escaped & was later captured by Byakuya outside the white tower.

I'm dropping Bleach.

Hm... Izuru's pretty cool in this new chapter.

Bleach is losing is pizazz...

>_>..............................

-_-...and so is naruto...

and so is darker than black...

so is life...

Don't despair! One Piece is still good!

And personally, I like the direction Bleach is heading.

That was kind of cool, the one guy whose name I can't remember doing that whole execution thing with his sword...I never thought of its weird shape being used like that before.

Izuru Kira/Kira Izuru, whichever way you prefer.

*gasp* KIRA! So you're the one killing all those people. Obviously, you used your zanpakuto to make everyone's heart so heavy, it gave them heart attacks. You fiend.

Finally....
Was hoping it'd be a little more awesome though.
That thing just looks.... Goofy...

We haven't seen it in action yet though, have we? He's only just released it.

Yeah but for the most part its most likely he'll throw it, and hack and slash with it.

It has the word "kaze" in its name.

Kaze means wind.

Expect wind powers.

Big surprise there. It's like saying that somebody must have ice powers because they have "yuki" in their name, or must be a princess because "hime" is somewhere in there.

....*looks at my two RP characters named Canro Yuki and Yukiko Yuki, who both have ice powers*
<_<

YES! I KNEW IT!

Stark is the 1st Espada.

Barragan = 2nd

Halibel = 3rd

Lulz, Shino forgot to edit the size of the spoilers.

Meh. It started to get boring a few weeks ago and I just stopped reading and watching it. x_x

sex meh nao.

Perv.

He always has been.

He always has been.

Nawt rly. He's only near badass when he's fighting Kurotsuchi, and filler Uryu fails hard.

^This


Pssh, he's had plenny other good fights.

Too bad Chad doesnt get many good parts...

Finally....they show his release.

no, no you're not.

LIEK, OMG, HE GOTS TEH WINGS!!!!

That's basically what my sister will be like -_-

Im sure there is more to his release than that.

I bet he has stages to it or something...after all, what ever it is, it has to be able to look like it could out do Nnoitra and Grimjow. >_>

Hey Salty, guess what my sister said -_-

Obviously there's more, but for now, it's just ridiculous.

Well, I think it's about time Ichigo did something new with his zanpakuto. He's only had his Bankai, Hollow mask and Getsuga Tensho for ages now. Pretty limited options, aren't they?

Not if you fight with actual swordsmanship, rather than WHO SHOOTS THE BIGGER LASER

That wasn't sword skills, that was Kenny actually getting serious. Seriously, all he had to do was swing two-handed, and he blew Nnoitra away.

Or a Vizard will pop in and save the day.

I don't think they can just make Ichigo come up with something out of the blue now. Keeping Getsuga in his swings was his last trick, I bet...

Some(?) of them are former captains, so they're probably going to conveniently be absurdly powerful.

Or he'll just get stronger due to shounen law.

...Well yeah, that's the general idea. The question is how he'll get stronger.

I reckon it'll have something to do with his Hollow mask/Vizard powers.

Or he'll just get stronger than Ulquiorra without anything new or interesting happening. That's what I was getting at. >_>

Though I'm sure something new will happen later on. Hopefully.

I am underwhelmed.
Again.

Ichigo may be the worst shonen main character ever...
This getting beat to the point of death before even fighting back has been ridiculous since the second time he did it.

I thought the same thing the second I saw it...

Full hollow is pretty much his only option now. It'd be lame if someone came along to beat Ulq for him.

Especially since Ulquiorra is one of his "rivals", along with Grimmjow.

I'd like to see the one of the others doing something useful though. Especially Renji. Rukia killed an Espada, Uryu and Chad each killed one of the Privaron Espada, but what's Renji done other than getting his ass handed to him by Szayel?

And what happened with Mayuri and those bodies in Szayel's lab? Has Kubo just forgotten about that?

To be honest, in my experience with Bleach, the whole cast is boring.

They're not all boring...

Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you. It's just that I tend to steer clear of topics about things that don't interest me, so I didn't understand your actions.

Yes they are, broccoli-boy! >8U

Bleach is similar to a trainwreck, but on a lesser scale. The series is not especially good, and there are flaws in the most important parts (such as fight scenes), but it's still entertaining to follow to some degree, and Kubo is just slightly good enough at foreshadowing that there are semi interesting things to speculate about.

Also, Ishida as of the last few chapters? Lelouch Lite.

I actually liked the first arc, at least.

Just speaking from why I still read it, not trying to say that it's how things are, and even so, I'm only talking about recently. It started out good... Though most things do.

Yeah...it's a planewreck... <<

Everyone loves to watch Trainwrecks though.
Unless they have people on them.
Or maybe when they do, too.

I dunno.

UNLIKE CODE TRAINWRECK M I RITE GUYS LOL


>_>

Oh you silly OTers.

Which is why your profile is spouting LOYALTY.
Don't worry, everyone is tsundere for OT.

....
Oh please shoot me.

Uhh... OT? ???

Well I hate OT for placing FLCL as the worst Gainax show.

For a while I was following Bleach by reading the topics too, then I actually went and read the chapters, and the accuracies were stunning! Especially the numerous comments about how it takes about a minute to go through a chapter.

OT IS AWESOME FOR VOTING GUNGRAVE THE BEST MADHOUSE SHOW

YOU KNOW WHAT STUDIO IS AWESOME?

GONZO, THAT'S WHAT!

You only like it because they love lolis.

(http://goatmilk.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/gonzo1.jpg)

(http://goatmilk.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/gonzo1.jpg)

But they also rated FLCL as second best. <_<

Sunrise is the best studio anyways.

ROBOTS ROBOTS ROBOTS

In anime, it's either

Robots robots robots

Girls girls girls

Swords swords swords

Or

Guns guns guns.

Sometimes they mix them, like...

Robot girl swords

Girl gun swords

Gun sword robots

Gun girl sword robot.



But in the end, it always comes down to those things.

Not all the time, though...

Name an anime with none of those in it. Including no girls.

I tried but I couldn't ):

I almost went with Cromartie High School, but Mechazawa >8|

She'll reject his existence and he'll die instantly...


...

Something tells me Ichigo's too dead to do anything for a while. He'll definitely be saved by someone else, and I don't think Hollow Ichigo would do any better than Ichigo did. Ulquiorra freaking obliterated him for the entire chapter.

I admit, I liked the recent chapter.

I'm pretty sure his Hollow form isn't particularly stronger, just more skilled.

And skill ain't gonna do crap against Ulquiorra God Mode.

The white version of Ichigo is his hollow. I don't really know what you mean by a proper hollow, because he certainly ain't gonna look like he did when the Vizards were containing him and he was regenerating limbs and looked like a monster. Though a regenerative power might pop up sometime. Whenever he was being controlled by his inner hollow he only showed himself to be more skilled and able to ignore injuries. His hollow taking control might help a little, but considering Ulquiorra was already kicking Ichigo's ass before he pulled a second transformation out of his has, a new attack probably wouldn't even be capable of pulling out a victory. Even if it could, Ichigo shouldn't always show off his "potential" by getting some new power or something. He's clearly inexperienced, lacking in skill, and isn't very capable when it comes to maintaining the speed his Bankai and perhaps his Hollow Mask allow. He needs to learn to use his power ups properly before he gets new power ups.

God I hate Orihime.

Uh... How is Orihime or her powers a deus ex machina?

Anyway, it would be completely and utterly backwards for Ichigo, who went though multiple training sessions to supress and control his inner-hollow, to beat Ulquiorra just because he let it control him. There's no reason to win if you took 10 steps backwards in the process. Not to mention that in such a defeat, Ulquiorra would still have won with his psychological "you're like us" warfare, and considering they're in the middle of a war, Ichigo doesn't have time to mope around about being a failure, and the only training session he could possibly get would be in his own mind, everyone else is too busy saving the universe to train him.

It just doesn't seem like anyone but Ichigo will beat Ulquiorra. He's like the Byakuya of the season, and Ichigo needs to beat someone important.

Although he'll probably end up responsible in part of Aizen's inevitable defeat (unless something bigger than Aizen shows up and kills Aizen).

Captains will probably take on the top 3 Espada, Some awesome people (captains in Hueco Mundo, or Vizards) will fight Gin and Blindo, and I dunno who'll fight Aizen. Some combination of Ichigo, Yamamoto, or a/the Vizard(s).

Gotta Have Blue Hair?

Too late now...what with his chest being blown out an' all.

Maybe if Ichigo would actually learn some swordsmanship it'd help. That'd actually be a reasonable "power-up" too.

Yeah, because Ichigo has got this far just by randomly waving his sword around with no skill whatsoever... ¬_¬

That's a minor inconvenience in a series where somebody can revive the dead.

The two hands thing was a metaphor, so to speak.


>___>

Tite Kubo should get to work on The Misadventures of Grimmjow, Kenpachi, and Ichimaru IMO.

Tite Kubo should get to work on The Misadventures of Grimmjow, Kenpachi, and Ichimaru IMO.

More like we need a Kenpachi and Ichimaru Take Driving Lessons episode.

Pssh.

lolOT

It should be about them humorously killing Hitsugaya a lot.

Why Hitsugaya?

 ::)

Hmm...

I wonder when they'll get back to him vs Hanabel. Hitsugaya could hardly beat the old number 6 Espada Luppi. No way he could beat number 3...

Was Hitsugaya going all-out against Luppi, or were his powers being surpressed? I can't remember...

Anyway, seeing as Ulquiorra is proving this difficult to kill, I doubt any of the captains (except Yamamoto) would be capable of killing any of the top 3 Espada by themselves. Shunsui and Ukitake would probably have the best chance, so they'll probably end up double-teaming Stark, but I don't know about the others.

A timely entrance by the Vizard and/or Kisuke, Yoruichi & Tessai and/or Ichigo & Uryu's dads, perhaps?

I can't remember either...

I wonder if Ulquiorra is still rank number 4 even though he is the only Espada that can go into the second stage. He did say that even Aisen hasn't seen that form of him...makes me wonder how strong numbers 1-3 are.


Hmm...those guys showing up does seem likely.

Ichigo's Posse.
The Captains.
The Vice-Captains.
The Espada.
The Fracción.
The Vaizards.

Oh, and by filler standards, The Bount.

HMMMM.

I was reflecting Raizor's post on Bleach having a large cast.

Oh right...

Well to be fair, despite having a large cast, it doesn't focus very heavily on most of the characters. It's really pretty balanced.

Yeah. They're really only focused on two Espada, for example.

Semi-hollow Ichigo...

Eh, close enough. I knew his latest "upgrade" would be to do with his Hollow mask.

I want to know why he looks so different, though. His Hollow form definately didn't have those horns when he was being trained by the Vizard. His mask looks different, too.

And it's nice to finally see Ulquiorra looking worried rather than... well, nothing at all. He's a cool character, but his face is always so devoid of expression. It's nice to see him actually fazed by something. Then again, he has just had his arm ripped off. That'd faze pretty much anyone.

I just hope he doesn't pull a third level to his resurreccion out of his ass...

I wanted full hollow back....

I wonder which form is actually stronger.

It's too early to tell, but I'm tempted to say this one. It looks like a proper combination of his shinigami & hollow powers, not just a hollow holding a sword.

I wanted full hollow back....

I wonder which form is actually stronger.

Silly Shino. If there's anything to be learned from Shonen anime/manga, it's that halves are always better than wholes.

I told you, Bleach has horrible pacing.

Maybe Noitra can't regenerate every part of his body.

Maybe Noitra can't regenerate every part of his body.

Whatever.

If Ichigo fights them, they can regenerate. If they can't regenerate, they will soon.

His death was too quick...I dun like it.


By the way, is Hitsugaya stronger than Ichigo? I don't think Hitsu can beat Hanabel by himself( she is #3)...especially sence he doesn't have Plot Armor like Ichigo...

He's a Captain. He can't die, it's in the contract.

As for Hanabel, I suspect she will either prove less powerful than Ulq (quite likely, really), or her release will be based upon gimmicks (much like her obvious conterpart Soifon)

It was never said anywhere that anyone is a Vasto Lorde, as far as I'm aware.

Just as the winter war finished and things were returning to normal, Chad was kidnapped by a soldier of hell! Ichigo gathers up his friends in order to fight the entire forces of the underworld despite Soul Society telling him not to. What friendship! Can Ichigo's party possible face the powerful 8 Apostles of hell? Upon arrival, the obvious choice was to separate:


Ishida

Ishida was the one to face 6th Cavalier, and Ishida's usual tricks stood no chance. Luckily he revealed he had a powerful new technique he never showed before, perfect for defeating his new opponent! The downsides are costly however... he lost his powers!

Chad

While held captive, Chad escaped and unlocked his armored legs, obliterating a nameless minion used to guard him! A few seconds later, he was knocked out by a casual swipe from the 7th Apostle, leaving him to bleed on the floor of his cell.

Rukia

To everybody's surprise, the spirit of Kaien has come to face Rukia in battle! After getting stabbed in the stomach, Rukia was barely able to defeat the 5th Cavalier using her shikai's full ability.

Renji

Renji used all his might against the 7th, and after a long hard battle could go no more. Luckily, Orihime has unlocked a new fairy ability during that very battle, healing him enough to land a finishing blow! She has exhausted her powers, however, leaving her to provide moral support.

Ichigo

Ichigo rushed in to face the 3rd Apostle, the very one that kidnapped Chad! After getting decimated and the situation seeming lost, a new side hidden inside of Ichigo came out to overpower the might soldier! Ichigo's resolve came through and regained control, allowing him to defeat the 3rd apostle fair and square.

But what is this?! The 2nd apostle is appraoching without giving Ichigo time to recover, but he gets interrupted by...

Kenpachi

Kenpachi comes out of nowhere, explaining his thirst for battle is so strong it penetrated hell itself! However, Kenpachi's two handed might is no match for the 2nd godly speed. That is until Kenpachi decides to get serious, and takes off the leg weights secretly tied to his shoes and pants. He outsped his opponent and won the battle!

Just as there was one opponent left, Aizen appeared out of nowhere and killed him, crowning himself the king of hell!

Honestly now, how many people liked Yammy? Yeah, not many, although there might be a few. Now Kubo goes and makes him the (seemingly) most powerful Espada. >_>

eh... Another thing to make this arc take longer...

Its probly the last one....

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=2000121&topic=48875663


I laughed.

Hitsugaya....NOOOOO. The only character I know on the show.

You're supposed to be tough.

Uh... He's still fighting. The thing Halibel cut in half was a clone (I think made of ice).

Very Naruto.

I don't even think it was a clone so much as a mirror of ice, but meh.

This is how I see it happening:

*Halibel is beating Hitsugaya.*
*All of a sudden Hitsugaya gets a sudden burst of power and beats Halibel.*

Tite forgot how to write.

Hm... Looks like Hitsugaya vs Halibel is going end soon...

*sigh* I like Bleach. I really do.

But...sometimes I just wish Kubo wouldn't drag it out so badly. The series always seems to progress so much slower when compared to the other three manga I read.

Not to mention he uses so much space on each page.

Well, looks like Kubo's finally going to reveal another captain's bankai. About bloody time.

I'd been wondering when he was finally going to reveal Soifon's bankai. I knew he was going to have to finally use it for this fight, and it's been bloody killing me.

Same goes for Shunsui's Bankai.

Somthing tells me we won't be seeing Shunsui's bankai for quite a while. Stark doesn't seem to be getting serious yet. Athough I think the way he fires his cero is kinda cool. It definately suits his lazy personality.

It annoyed me a couple of chapters back when Soifon was talking about how the espada seem to be much stronger than the captains, and going on about how she was in trouble. all I could think was "Of course you're struggling! You're not using your two most powerful abilities: Bankai and Shunko!".

I'm really quite curious as to what Soifon's Bankai actually involves, though. Especially thanks to that last panel.

Not bad, per se, but my bet is that it's either something that embarrasses her personally, or takes a hell of a lot of preparation to control properly.

Probably this, from the looks of it.

But I'm curious because I really can't think of a way Kubo could expand on her shikai. I'm just interested to see what he comes up with.

Or one really, really big claw thing that instant kills instead of taking two hits. <_<

Lots of poisonous wasps flying around. Really fast.

Or one really, really big claw thing that instant kills instead of taking two hits. <_<

. . .

...Is that it? That was a pretty lame chapter...


Oh well. Soifon's Bankai at least seems kinda cool.


Surprisingly, not that far off. Although we don't know if it's insta-death yet.

Huh... Stark's released state is... interesting. A hollow with guns? Looks cool though. And I wasn't expecting that explanation of his relationship with Lilinette.


Also, I can't be the only one that doesn't believe Barragan would go down that "easily", even if Soifon's attack does seem hugely powerful.

Indeed. Can't wait to see what makes him number 1.


He better be dead. The recoil alone was enough to rip that steel cloth...

Hah, called it. Didn't quite expect the shotgun Ceros, but in hindsight I suppose that I should have.

Well it wasn't hard to figure out. What else would a hollow with guns fire?

I like that Lilinette can still talk, though. It's not often you see someone arguing with their own weapon.

Except...y'know...everything with a talking weapon ever.

I was wondering when Wonderwess was coming back...

I hope they just hurry up and Bankai now. Maybe the commander will step in once again...

Did anybody else notice that whatever the hell it is Wonderweiss brought back with him, it had Gillian masks for fingernails?

I bet it's uber-Yammy, if anyone remembers him.

Or not. It could be some random new thing to add to the already monstrous list of things to keep track of.

I bet it's uber-Yammy, if anyone remembers him.

Or not. It could be some random new thing to add to the already monstrous list of things to keep track of.

Seriously...

I guess he has to prolong it...I cant see Bleach continuing after all this. Unless they get into the King's place...

After this arc, Ichigo and friends sacrifice all their power to seal the barrier between Hueco Mundo and the Real world, forever preventing hollows from escaping. Now that they are back to being normal people, Bleach becomes a school life shonen romance story.

...>_>

Not with a hole in one's chest and a shot shoulder on the other...

They'll get better. It's Titty Kubo, after all. He just looooves his big damn heroes.

They'll get better. It's Titty Kubo, after all. He just looooves his big damn heroes.

I suppose. I'm sure the 4th Squad captain should be showing up soon...

They'll get better. It's Titty Kubo, after all. He just looooves his big damn heroes.

And what's wrong with keeping strong characters alive?

When you create an absolute bull**** diabolus ex machina just so you can have the other guys show up.

So uh...What the **** happened to Yami? >_>