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I read the bible, and it says gays should be put to death (DONT ASK ME WHERE, I DONT REMEMBER. but anyone who reads the bible will tell you it says this) HOWEVER i dont understand why. I mean, i dont think gay people CHOOSE to be gay AT ALL. Its like saying "Chinese people deserve to be put to death." It doesnt make sense.

Discuss.

*Steals my joke from the other topic*

Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden of Eden, and man and woman were punished for all time. Woman's punishment was that she had PMS once a month. Man's punishment was that he had to put up with woman's PMS once a month. Now, God hates gays because they found a loophole...

It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!

The whole 'PUT TO DEATH' thing violates 'THOU SHALT NOT KILL'....

The only thing Religion is good at is contradicting itself.

Gays should be put to death? I don't recall anything like that.

Trust me, anyone who says that doesn't have their facts straight.

oh yeah, and the Bible doesn't even say that... now           , both man and animal are put to death.

But            is just... SICK  :-X

lol, autocensor

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its unfortunate that the man-made doctrine has confused so many things. one thing that pothers me inparticular is the departure from worshiping god to many christians worshiping jesus as god. the bible states that jesus told people they should worship god, not him. yet so many streams of christianity worship jesus as god, not the son of god. this has just been irritating me for some time.

Son of God = God

"Those who have seen me have seen the Father" or something like that.

i personally don't like the idea of mixing the father and the son. i know thats the point of the trinity, but it just irritates me.

Guys

The Bible was made my people so yeah


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those bastards

The bible DOES say that.

Its in a list of things i THINK in corinthians that are deserving of death.

Shows how retarded you are. Lets see being gay is a choice for one. Everything except unstoppable things such as like car accidents, and diseases, is a choice.If you have any control on it what so ever its a choice. And hows it contradicting itself? And the 10 commandments were discontinued buddy. They were replaced with the Mosaic Law.

Being gay isn't a choice. That's like saying being born asian is a choice.

I JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS!!! :3

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This.

And, I'm pretty sure sexual preference has been proven by science to be a natural gene and not something like getting up in the morning and suddenly thinking...

"Hey! I'm gonna prefer the company of men now!"

It doesn't work that way, and I wouldn't recommend flaming an admin just for his opinion, and if you want to see contradictions just read the Bible as well as many of it's translation issues.

People who insist sexual preference is a choice don't have one.

Explain how it isnt a choice.

There have been several studies on it, and the majority of the time it points to homosexuality being biological. One particular example is straight men being proven naturally attracted to female urine whereas gay men were naturally attracted to male sweat.

...Wait, what?

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Im not attracted to girl pee or man sweat...

OMG IM NOTHING :O

Yeah. >_>

Explain how it is.

Why is Kakadi still allowed to come here anyways? Somebody ban him plz.

He's allowed to come here because if anyone on the staff decided to ban him someone else would come in and be some dork who says "lol he shouldn't be banned cuz i dunt like enforan rules" and then they'll say they think it's too harsh and that person is likely in a higher position so what they say goes and as such no one gets suspended for more than half an hour, let alone banned.

Fact.

Well yeah, this site has an awful administration, but we've already banned Kakadi a few times, so I don't see why we can't now.

Sas in a nutshell.

ohay an admin is here ban him plox.

If I did, then people will think I'm abusing my power and holding a grudge or some crap like that.

Kakadi has been banned from the site, he's breaking the rules just by being here. You should ban him regardless of what it'll make other people think.

Of course God doesn't like gay people. It's A-men, not Ah-men.

*Stolen joke from Steven Colbert.* >_>

Its funny how just because someone disagrees with you, you find the need to try to shut them up. You obviously dont get it do you? Sure ban me i really dont care but if its because in some way you feel better about yourself whoop dee ****ing doo. Being gay is wrong. Just wrong. Your just mad because im the only person that stands up for whatever i believe in especially if its against you. Lets see the odds shall we? Bout everyone in favor of homosexual crap to me one person against it. Nice. Well im not doubting the mod system but each time i get banned it is a struggle to get back. But now the only reason i do come back is to set you pricks who think that whatever you or a group of you think is right should automatically be taught or told as the truth. Its funny that id even write this much. But whatever, act like you know everything and be happy about. Because thats what it all boils down to.

Exactly my point, thank you for helping clarify. You're only here to be a hindrance. But as long as you're here, I'll repeat the question-


Even though I'm almost entirely sure you're only saying what you are to **** off as many people as possible, let's see your argument.

First of all the frst part was about you people who flame people who dont agree with you. and ok ill explain how it is a choice.

Now im bout to get religious sooo you might not understand but anyways the foundational teaching on marriage and sexual issues is found in Genesis chapters 1 and 2. When Jesus was questioned about marriage, He referred to these 2 chapters Matthew 19:1-12; Mark 10:1-12. Genesis teaches us that “male and female He created them” Genesis 1:27. We were created to a plan, male and female complementing each other. That is, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, nor Madam and Eve.

Alsooooooooooooooo design in human biology supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality. (just a side point)

Sorry, quoting the bible isn't going to be taken seriously in any argument. As for your other point-


Well yes, it's clear that people are naturally supposed to be heterosexual, but it's not as if defects don't exist. Homosexuality could very well be the result of somebody who was going to end up a woman physically being a man instead, though that's entirely a theory. But there's been study into the differences in chromosomes between homosexual and heterosexual people and a difference in one of the chromosomes has been found, which if it could be more well evidenced would effectively completely prove that homosexuality is biological.

And there is more evidence still, but a lot of it is not set in stone either way, but all of it together clearly points to one conclusion.

It pretty much isn't a choice unless you're one of those idiots who changes back and forth

I thinks its funny you think you can rule out things just because you say so. Well this conversation is completely pointless then because me being religious i base almost everything out of the bible. So if you think you can rule that out then dont make an argument with me retard. Try looking at all my other debates i always point to the bible. So i will agree there are defects but that doesnt mean your naturally going to be attracted to thye same sex. So maybe at a different point in time when you give the bible some credit we can continue until then. Dont bother trying to argue with me because its the first place ill get my facts out of. Just to let you know. Im not sure what religion you are IF you follow any but im sure it doesnt promote homosexual relationships.

Eh, I'm Jewish, but I couldn't tell you whether it's supporting or unsupporting of homosexual relationships because I really don't care and don't see why people shouldn't be allowed to be in one, regardless of whether it's a choice or not. It causes no harm to anybody or anything.

And as long as you're making your arguments out of The Bible, well, that kind of just ends it doesn't it? There isn't even a need for debate when you have an all-ending book that gives you the solution to everything.

You see, im trying not to go off on you but your making little smart remarks against a faith i believe in yet jews are the worst of them all. So i could really care less with what your saying but i do think its un called for very un called for. So while ill sit here and believe in the bible. You go off and make trouble for someone else. Get along little doggy

I really don't have a problem with Christianity at all. (as you apparently have with Judaism, but I'll try to ignore that for now) My point was that there's no point of debating if all you're going to do is quote a book and take it as absolute fact. If you already know that it's right, what are you even doing here?

I love how you completely flipped what i said back on me. Well the reason im here is only because cads decided to make this topic. (Why i dont kno seeing as we go to the same kingdom hall and are the same religion) but just because he decides to make this topic i know just about everyone is going to say its right and its ok to be homosexual. But if he made the topic and he says all that well why cant i give my thoughts?

Don't be surprised if you get into an argument on the Heavy Stuff board.

Why what happened? I dont look for arguments its just when people dont agree it usually happens.

Huh?


That seemed like pretty blatant hatred. >_> And I don't mind when you give your opinion, unless the first thing you say is "Shows how retarded you are." Really, now.

Whoops. I meant if you get into arguments. >_>

Yeah that really wasnt called for. But see im still wondering why cads made this topic. Yes opinions are pretty much everything and thats what everything boils down to is opinions

Ok, I guess I'll agree and end this then. <_<

lol cmon i wanst looking for a debate i just get agitated at times no hard feelings eh?

*has not read anything except the first post*

You do not choose to be gay. The sexual center in your brain is different from straight people's, which is why you are gay. You can't help being gay, therefore, christians (People in general, just using the example from the topic) who say that all gay people should die, are baboon bums.

Or retarded assholes, choose whichever you'd like.


Saying "all gay people should die" is just as bad as the nazis saying that "All jews must die".


The only good message that the bible sends, is the whole "Love everyone, even if they slap you" message. Everything else is IMO, bull.