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Title: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 06:21:43 pm
I've been asked to post two things: This following back story and a request to become a mod. You can skip past the back story if you like ( or just not read any of this at all). I ask that you read it all though.

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Okay, I'll try to make this as to-the-point as possible - please don't judge me...:

Just before I left the place because of how it was deteriorating and how there was nothing to do/talk about there, I was made an admin on The SSBB: Freeboards by the then owner of the board, Ansem102.

A while after that, one of the members managed to stage a site take-over - he changed names, deleted boards, de-admined/modded everyone, etc. - and I didn't have a problem with that. I even helped him in letting him in spreading madness by telling him details of conversations I had with others about the situation.

It was when he started making truly hurtful, personal insults towards certain members that it stopped being just fun and games in my eyes. I found out that he had done this with the knowledge of Ansem102 and another admin on the site (they all knew one another in real life) and I told everyone. He banned himself and partway returned everything to normal. I figured "whatever - he's banned now, so we can move on".

He later came back to the site for some reason, and put forth a vote on whether or not to allow him back. I strongly believed that he should stay banned because not only had he been banned in the past, but he had gone further than just taking over the site - he had said some stuff that was really out of line. He also said he hated the site on multiple occasions.

The vote was close, but most wanted him to stay banned. However, one of his real-life frineds (another admin) said that the site wasn't about strict rules and guidelines, so he let him back. I said that if he gets to come back, then everyone else who was banned would have to come back to. Everyone seemed to change their minds and then wanted to pardon everyone who had been banned. This didn't sit well with me.

A user was making fun of some of the UK members for not getting Brawl yet. One of the UK people told me that they had a problem with it. I told the user that he should stop making fun. He did it again and I said I'd change his profile if he did it again. he did it again, so I changed his profile.

After that, the guy who took over the site (and was allowed back by 'majority' vote) accused me of mod-abuse, even after I and the person whose profile I altered explained the situation. I know he only said this and started hating me because I told everyone his two friends knew about how he would take over the site and 'betrayed' him.

After a while, Ansem102 left the site and gave site-ownership to his friend who took over the site. this pissed me off, mainly because he was awarded with the whole site after all the things he had done.

I posted the Star Fox story (the really messed up one, I admit) and he said that counted as "a strike". I said "whatever", even though I had posted it before. I knew he wanted an excuse to ban me/de-admin me for he constantly talked about how terrible a user I had become (when I had never taken over the site...).

He made a general insult to everyone on the site about how they were stupid or something and I made an indirect insult towards him about being stupid - He de-admined me. I decided that I should just go with my oroginal plan to leave the site since I had no real reason to stay anymore.

Being de-admined wasn't what bothered me, but it was that he had never really gotten punished for what he did. I tried to get another admin to give me their password so that I could do the same thing he did to show him that he couldn't just get away with whatever he wanted. The admin I was talking to kept saying "he cares about the site now" and "that was in the past"...

That was frustrating for me, I admit. It was the first time I had gotten actually angry throughout the whole situation, so I lied to him saying that I had another admin's password already and if he didn't cooperate, I'd actually mess up the site instead of just de-admining people. He got scared and ratted me out, so I asked for my account to be deleted.

So, that's that. I just really had a problem with not seeing justice done, so I'd want them to know that I'd be there to deal out justice if need be.

As I'm sure you've all noticed, I've posted some ridiculous stuff on this site during my time here. Some of it in PMs, the rest of it in topics. I've been seeing what all is allowed to happen here and, since I've never been modded for anything I've posted/said, I can say it's a lot, be it conspiracy to take over a site to posting disgusting fan-fics to making overly thought-provoking questions. I can't say that I didn't enjoy any of all that, but I can say that it's shown that something needs to be done - not necessarily a complete overhaul of the way things are run here, but a revision.

What I wish for is for this site to become the bustling "place to go to" that many of you have said you'd like it to be. Of course, with new members, there will no doubt be new conflicts - conflicts of which the current set of obscure rules would not help solve that well.

I can't promise that I'll "save the site". I can't promise everything will immediately get better because of me. I won't pass out "I believe in Spring-Loaded" buttons, but I can promise that I won't settle for injustice, anywhere. Veteran Mods and Admins, as long as I have a say, will be held just as accountable for their actions as new Users will.

The reason that I'm posting this topic is so that everyone will be able to see it. There is a large enough staff as there is, so there'll be enough people without me as one. However, someone wanted me to say something about this, so I did. Say whatever you feel and feel free to pass judgment on me. I await your responses.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 21 December, 2008, 06:38:01 pm
>_>

I've Been making this same stand for the past month. Ive realized, you don't need to be in a seat of power to enact changes....



Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: sasori1122 on 21 December, 2008, 07:11:50 pm
I am glad that you did go ahead and make the topic, because as I said over PM, it's not up to me as to whether or not you could be added on or not, or at least not entirely.

Probably some issues with it would be that the staff already has a few issues with getting along...sometimes there's a bit of bickering...and that your robust personality could cause more turmoil than there already exists.

There's a huge staff...and additions may seem superfluous.

However, you are straightforward in your opinions, which would be good for discussing what work would need doing.

And you seem to have as a primary interest strengthening the disciplinary system, which is a problematic system that needs revising and reinforcement anyways, and you could serve to catalyze action on that front.

I need to hear what other people would have to say before deciding either way, at the moment.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 21 December, 2008, 07:13:17 pm
What event motivated you to request this position?


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Random on 21 December, 2008, 07:16:43 pm
We already have ample (probably excessive) staff members, and there are existing conflicts between you and one or more of those staff members. On the other hand, our disciplinary system is something we have been saying we needed to revise, yet little has come from that discussion, so perhaps some fresh input would actually get that started.

My hands are a bit tied; I don't what the right decision is here.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 07:47:33 pm
What event motivated you to request this position?

The topic about making the board more general, the topic about acquiring new members and a talk with Sasori.

I'm also fully aware with my relationships with Fooby and Ermine. I'll answer to what they have to say when they say it.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 21 December, 2008, 07:52:52 pm
What recommendations would you make about garnering new members and generalizing the site? I'm assuming your problem right now is you don't have the power to implement the changes.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 08:19:39 pm
The consensus here is that we need to generalize the site, which isn't the hard part (making each board more all-encompassing). If we are to do that we'll need something that separates us from any other site and some kind of reward for being here.

What I mean by 'all-encompassing' is that each board (let's say the RP board) should have everything that you could want if your main interest is RPing (which I think it might have). The problem is that you can't say that any of the other boards have that - if I want to discuss serious issues within the music world, my topics would go in the same place as just general discussion. However, to get our boards to be like this and not feel too stretched out, we need more members.

For each of these boards (and for the site in general) we need something that makes us stand out. We may have a good General Games board, but we aren't famous for it. We'd have to start regular competitions that have something enticing as the reward, which brings me to my final point.

This may seem reminiscent of GFaqs, but hear it through. Imagine if we used some equivalent to karma, but not in the way that Gfaqs uses it (having to earn functions that should be available to you from the start). Instead, give people access to secret boards, their own board, or something that they genuinely want and you'll get/keep more people here.

I'm more concerned with what's done once those people are actually here though and to be honest, I hadn't been thinking about how to make this place more appealing to new users.



Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: ganonfloyd on 21 December, 2008, 08:23:30 pm
This may seem reminiscent of GFaqs, but hear it through. Imagine if we used some equivalent to karma, but not in the way that Gfaqs uses it (having to earn functions that should be available to you from the start). Instead, give people access to secret boards, their own board, or something that they genuinely want and you'll get/keep more people here.

this has me very much interested.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 21 December, 2008, 08:29:26 pm
Spring, why dint you have them try this out, then see if it works. THEN request Gmodship. If you get global modship for this, then it doesnt work. what happens? you didnt earn the power you have.You should have had an admin take your request in, then if they all like it and it all works out, then you should have asked for it.

Now its just making you seem like you're bribing the Admins into promoting you.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 09:06:16 pm
I've already presented my ideas. What Dmax said can be done - try out what I suggest to see if it works first.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 21 December, 2008, 09:08:45 pm
There you go. That makes you look less desperate for power, and more like you really want to help. :)


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 21 December, 2008, 09:11:44 pm
It could take weeks if not months to see the full effects of these changes.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 21 December, 2008, 09:13:32 pm
It could take weeks if not months to see the full effects of these changes.

Yeah, and that would make it more worth his time.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 09:20:26 pm
Like I said, I'm more concerned with what we do once we have new members.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 21 December, 2008, 09:23:57 pm
We provide them with assistance and support?


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 10:05:00 pm
And settle any and all conflicts that (will) arise with as little trouble as possible.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 21 December, 2008, 10:19:28 pm
Conflict resolution is basically a must-have ability for any moderator. And the main problem isn't what to do when we get new users, the main problem is getting the new users before the site stagnates. Recruiting new members while retaining our tight-knit community is our main focus at the moment.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 10:24:15 pm
While that is important of course, we have to be able to keep them here once we get them and that ties into proper moderation/rules/board set-up.



Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 21 December, 2008, 10:33:08 pm
While that is important of course, we have to be able to keep them here once we get them and that ties into proper moderation/rules/board set-up.



I agree that although we're in need of a lure it doesn't do much good without a line to reel them in, but without a lure you're not going to be using a line at all.

The staff is already working on planning the new arrangments for the board and the expansion thereof, but we all agree that the expansions simply can't be made unless we get more users without creating a lot of dead space.

And even if we do a good job with the expansions, some of the staff think that we need something unique to keep/get users here, such as a main site with the forum attached to it. Though how this would work, I have no idea.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 10:47:38 pm
I think it'll take every last one of advertising the site. It's also a chicken-or-the-egg situation with what our main focus must be (we need good boards to get users, but we need users to fill those boards to in turn make them good).


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Fooby on 21 December, 2008, 10:59:40 pm
These are all good suggestions.

However, that's all they are. Suggestions. Suggestions in making the forums better, which we appreciate. But how does any of it equate to you becoming a mod?

Unless I read over something, he only shred of evidence supporting your claim is that the site will get bigger, and the userbase will grow. And these users will require moderating. But what if we are unsuccessful in attracting new users?

Nothing has changed. We are left as we are right now--a tight-knit community. Everyone knows each other, and generally, everyone is relatively friendly. Aside from the occasional spat, nothing needs moderated. We are currently fine with our current staff, aside from a few issues we are ironing out.

I have seen good suggestions in expanding the site, but I have yet to see an answer to the question I'm thinking:

Why should Spring be a moderator?
Not why does spring want to be a moderator, why does spring need to be a moderator?

It is my opinion that we cannot make a decision at this time. As Gaffit, I believe, stated, we will need time to see if this can be implemented.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 21 December, 2008, 11:27:02 pm
We can still start with these ideas and others we have now. And I've said multiple times that the site already has plenty of mods/admins.

The reason I want to be one is that apparently these things that everyone wants done haven't been - from what I've seen, things haven't been overly tumultuous, yet when problems have arisen, they aren't taken care of in an uneventful manner. Imagine if these problems broke out more often (and if we do achieve our goal of new members, especially form places such as GFaqs, 4Chan and others as have been mentioned, they will) and we still have the vague set of rules that we currently have.

Thinking of all that I've said so far as being merely suggestion only makes it seem that much more unattainable. Let's just start with it and see where it goes - I only made this topic because Sasori wanted me to. I do want to be a mod/admin, yet only to facilitate the things I've said should happen to happen.

So let's start making decisions instead of talking about making them and start doing what we say we should.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Random on 21 December, 2008, 11:39:50 pm
That still doesn't really answer the question. You wanting to see your suggestions and the suggestions of others be put into practice still equates to you wanting to be a moderator rather than needing to be. If we were physically incapable of implementing yours and others suggestions, then you might need to be a mod. We are working on a lot of the problems that have come up and we are trying to come up with the best solutions possible. It's just a very slow process.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: sasori1122 on 21 December, 2008, 11:53:17 pm
Of course...we did try to fix many of the same problems last year...and nothing ever got done...<_<

just saying...it's not like our track record is that great


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Random on 21 December, 2008, 11:54:09 pm
I didn't say it wasn't a valid point. I was almost making his argument for him. >_>


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: sasori1122 on 21 December, 2008, 11:58:16 pm
oh...?
you were baiting him to cite our inefficiency?
heh


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 22 December, 2008, 12:08:52 am
Didn't I already, yet without sounding like an jerk?


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Random on 22 December, 2008, 12:11:02 am
Sometimes you have to sound like a jerk to make yourself clear. Though I can see how it would be necessary to garner support by not being a jerk.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 22 December, 2008, 12:22:03 am
I'll keep that in mind...and I'd go ask people to join right now, but I'm beyond tired.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: sasori1122 on 22 December, 2008, 12:30:34 am
beyond tired...?
maybe you should get some sleep...
hope your dreams are lucid


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 22 December, 2008, 06:01:44 pm
It is my opinion that we cannot make a decision at this time. As Gaffit, I believe, stated, we will need time to see if this can be implemented.

>_>

<_<

That was me...


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 22 December, 2008, 11:06:31 pm
So what's being done about everything?


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: sasori1122 on 22 December, 2008, 11:13:50 pm
It would probably help if the staff came in here and started talking again...<_<

I'm still unsure what to decide..


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 22 December, 2008, 11:51:15 pm
We can just keep pushing/reminding people to go forth and try to get more people to join for right now. But we should start doing something, if not that.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 23 December, 2008, 08:43:23 am
We are currently working on the incentives to keep posting which I believe are coming along nicely.

And if we try to get people to randomly go on forums and advertise, we'll be flamed off the site. However, there are some users here that are already established among other communties.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Lumines_Nervend on 27 December, 2008, 08:14:24 pm
The hardest part of getting people to join is that this site still has a focus on Brawl.  Brawl is in the past to the point of being irrelevant to those who aren't fans.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 28 December, 2008, 11:21:03 pm
The hardest part of getting people to join is that this site still has a focus on Brawl.  Brawl is in the past to the point of being irrelevant to those who aren't fans.

Even if we change the name of the site and it's focus, there's still the matter of actually getting new people to look at the site itself. The problem is complicated in that we need a lure that would help people find out about the site. A couple of people have suggested creating a site of which this would be a forum to, but I don't really know what the basis of that site would be.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Judgment Angel Zero on 28 December, 2008, 11:25:05 pm
Elaborate, Gaffit.
On the part where you mentioned "creating a site of which this would be a forum too."


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: sasori1122 on 28 December, 2008, 11:29:23 pm
What is meant is this

it has, in the past, been considered

to create a site, that contains all sorts of gaming related things, and link it here for the forums

however, we would need to buy a domain name and we would need to either set up a server to run off of or pay to use a server
and we would really lose money because we don't have enough people to gain money or even break even off of advertisements

so yeah, there you have that, in a nut shell


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Judgment Angel Zero on 28 December, 2008, 11:38:28 pm
That is an excellent idea. Too bad finances are an issue. Also, there are a lot of gaming sites out there. =/


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 28 December, 2008, 11:39:32 pm
That is an excellent idea. Too bad finances are an issue. Also, there are a lot of gaming sites out there. =/

Which is why we would most likely have to sell **** on the side. >_>


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Judgment Angel Zero on 28 December, 2008, 11:40:32 pm
>_>
Erm...


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 28 December, 2008, 11:44:15 pm
What? I thought we were brainstorming?

One of us could try to start up a crappy youtube series in the hopes that it becomes wildly popular.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Judgment Angel Zero on 28 December, 2008, 11:50:57 pm
What? I thought we were brainstorming?

One of us could try to start up a crappy youtube series in the hopes that it becomes wildly popular.
...Well, for the former part, we'd need someone who has access to **** of their creation so that they may sell it...I guess...

For the latter, that may work...


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 29 December, 2008, 11:30:28 pm
Dmax..


Maybe it's time we gave them.. you know.. the 'tapes'.

I dont know what you are talking about.

;>_>

<_<;

*injects Unreal with a laxative*

That will keep you too busy to talk...

Seriousness: I also think advertising on Youtube would work. ahh hell, Me and Doc could Advertise on the Monster Hunter Wiki, thousands of people go there, a few are bound to show up...Of course, that means we would need a MH Topic. Why have i Not made one yet...

O_O

Wikipedias! we could advertise on the Wiki's of some popular game sites!

And i dont mean the Wikipedia pages...i mean the Wiki's for games.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 29 December, 2008, 11:37:33 pm
...intravenous laxatives? >_>


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 29 December, 2008, 11:58:19 pm
I wonder what would happen if you injected someone with Laxatives....


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 30 December, 2008, 12:00:06 am
Uh... guys...




...... My stomach doesn't feel so good.

I lol'd at you actually typing out the long pause.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 30 December, 2008, 12:07:14 am
lol, no. I do now though.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Fooby on 01 January, 2009, 03:21:43 pm
Stay on topic, please.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 02:09:47 am
What else is there to discuss? I've already said why I want to be a mod. You all have proven that, despite the abundance of staff members, there's still a severe lack of competency when it comes to making modifications that stick/that aren't separate from personal feelings and that some mods/admins aren't sure of what counts as power abuse. We've also decided to review my becoming a mod when we have more members, which is the largest part of why I requested to be made one. We just have to play the waiting game (that we're so used to playing when it comes to the staff going through with decisions around here).


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Fooby on 02 January, 2009, 03:07:54 am
Then stop discussing. I don't know what you see with the "tapes" and laxatives, but I see spam.
Once we hit a point where the thread can go somewhere, we'll go somewhere with it, but for now, I think we can leave off-topic conversations to the side.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 03:12:01 am
Okay. Has any progress been made over the last week and a half since I made this topic? Has there been any progress on any idea to get new users and keep them here? What has been done? Has any discussion actually taken place about me being made a mod? Do you guys care about the site? I'd genuinely like answers to all of those questions, and not just from you Fooby.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: GSD on 02 January, 2009, 11:44:21 am
I wouldn't mind Spring replacing Duprav, since he's never here...

...

*shot*


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Esh on 02 January, 2009, 03:37:12 pm
Huh.... I forgot about him....

Let's see.... Right now we have Lumy, Gaffit, Random, ILS and Spat.... Duprav doesn't count since his last short visit was about 5 months ago....
We did have Raizor, Cube, Blue and GSD.... I was a GMod once too...


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Z911 on 02 January, 2009, 04:13:30 pm
We have enough members, really we do. What goes on here? Next to nothing besides the casual changing Salty's words, because he's insensitive towards homosexuals. Although, I'd love for an actual punishment to go out for it, but....of course not!


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 02 January, 2009, 04:15:31 pm
We've implemented some ideas on keeping members, Sas is leading a discussion on gaining new members, although we're having trouble finding a way to gain and keep members at an even pace.

And you're really starting to get on a lot of people's nerves with this "you guys don't care about this site" crap.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 04:32:31 pm
We've implemented some ideas on keeping members, Sas is leading a discussion on gaining new members, although we're having trouble finding a way to gain and keep members at an even pace.

And you're really starting to get on a lot of people's nerves with this "you guys don't care about this site" crap.

I never said that, so please Gaffit, don't act like I did. What I did say is that there hasn't been any considerable progress because there isn't enough drive to actually get things done - there are some staff members who feel change is needed, yet there are those that don't which causes strife amongst them and ends with nothing getting done. Also, from what you said, it sounds like just that.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: I_like_Nonon on 02 January, 2009, 05:34:56 pm
I have, in other topics, already given my ideas for what we could do to make the site more interesting. Perhaps someone could write an entertaining blog, updated on specific dates. Perhaps a humerous or informative podcast could be done once in a while. I know it's been done a million times over, but someone could review stuff in a humerous way maybe.

As for advertising, there's not really anything we can do, except go out on other forums and advertise, or advertise to friends.

"But why aren't you doing it then ILS?"

It's simple. I don't go to any forums except this at the moment, so if I had to advertise ANYWHERE, it would have to be on DA, on which I am not very well known anyway. The only people who'd see the advertisement, would be the people who already are on this site anyway.

I'll be the first to admit, I'm ineffective. I'd like to help, but I often can't. Sure, I could learn HTML to code a site we MIGHT someday be able to put up and afford, but I don't. I could join some anime forum, become an integral part of it, get to know some of the users and then advertise for the site, but I don't. I'm ineffective, and I don't contribute much outside discussing things, I'm quite aware. But I really don't know what to do to keep potential new users, other than the things I've already mentioned.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 07:13:48 pm
Is there anyone who can do the things ILS mentioned? What about what's been mentioned in this topic so far? And is anyone else going to answer any of those questions?


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 02 January, 2009, 07:25:34 pm
I occasionally visit The Secret World forums. And if I can find a site where I could run the Pop Culture Showdown alongside this one, it seems to be relatively popular and might convince a few people to come over. If anyone knows a site I could run it on, feel free to send me a link.

And could you list what exactly hasn't been answered so far?


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 07:59:10 pm
Okay. Has any progress been made over the last week and a half since I made this topic? Has there been any progress on any idea to get new users and keep them here? What has been done? Has any discussion actually taken place about me being made a mod? Do you guys care about the site? I'd genuinely like answers to all of those questions, and not just from you Fooby.

All of these questions - Gaffit gave answers, yet those are only form his viewpoint, and there is more than one mod here. There could be other things being done by other mods that Gaffit doesn't know about.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 02 January, 2009, 08:01:31 pm
Savvy.

Got anymore questions/suggestions in the meantime?


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 08:15:16 pm
No, I'm giving it a rest for now. I'll still try to get some of my friend's to join, but I only see maybe three of them staying and one of them would almost definitely cause lots of trouble.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 02 January, 2009, 08:20:04 pm
I find it funny that you said you want to be a mod so that you can get stuff done. but from as far as i can tell you've done nothing to try to motivate them into working.

EDIT: I have'nt read the last page, if this is discussed. Ignore it.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: GSD on 02 January, 2009, 08:20:41 pm
I could try to get a few of my old e-friends to come...

*does that now*


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 02 January, 2009, 08:21:40 pm
I've got one friend that may be nerdy enough to stick around for the RP's.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 02 January, 2009, 08:26:46 pm
I want to know if we're seriously considering changing the forum to be more of a general thing rather than focused on Brawl before I go and invite a lot of people.

Sas seems pretty serious about the general forum. I'm pretty sure we're going through with it. Though we're debating whether or not to do it before or after we get new members. If we do it before, we risk losing old members and not gaining any new members because of it. If we do it after, we risk losing the new members who are quickly uninterested by the topic of the forum.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 08:44:18 pm
Will we still have a focus on videogames, or by "general" do we mean that our focus will be anything that can have topics made about it?


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: GSD on 02 January, 2009, 08:50:27 pm
By generalizing I always figured we were talking about expanding. I mean, like an actual website devoted to gaming with articles, possibly reviews, videos, idk.. But the focus wouldn't be just on Brawl. Because that's limiting our audience.
I was actually thinking of getting a capture card...


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 08:52:25 pm
Okay, if that's the case, then cool. I also really like ILS's idea about having entertaining reviews/podcasts - there are plenty of popular ones (AVGN, that homeless guy) and that would get us some attention.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Gaffit on 02 January, 2009, 08:53:56 pm
An actual site idea has been discussed, but would be hard to implement without a user donating a computer as a server or paying to use one.

Unless you meant to put reviews on such in the forums and faqs on the forums.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: sasori1122 on 02 January, 2009, 09:12:11 pm
I'm trying...really I am...I'm just kinda...super busy lately

Bah...it's never a good thing for procrastinators to be busy


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 02 January, 2009, 09:19:51 pm
You're not the only one who can do something though. Unless you're talking about the Simple Machines big forum-thing.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: A Duck on 02 January, 2009, 09:20:06 pm
I'm trying...really I am...I'm just kinda...super busy lately

Bah...it's never a good thing for procrastinators to be busy

I know exactly what you mean. lol.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: sasori1122 on 02 January, 2009, 09:33:57 pm
You're not the only one who can do something though. Unless you're talking about the Simple Machines big forum-thing.
However, it is my job to administrate and see to it that other people carry out their actions efficiently and such...my job is to try and make sure people do what they say they will do, and to try and push people, in addition to trying to negotiate transitions/changes in forum policy...

it's like...I should try to be doing a lot more than I am


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Hawk_v3 on 03 January, 2009, 03:31:10 pm
... Uhm, I'm not sure if my input will be valid here...

But I can code, to an extent if we ever get round to a website, and I know someone on DA who is fairly well known, so I might be able to get some new users through that.

As for the staff, unfortunately, the only time they fall into the general user's eyes is when one of them screws up.

It would be nice to have some knowledge about what the staff actually do, as we can't see the Mod board, and therefore have no clue. Even just a locked "We are trying to do these:" list topic in general would be nice.

And the most I've ever managed to extrapolate from PM conversations with some staff is the feeling that not many of you can agree.

But, yeah, actually knowing what you have planned, apart from "Get more users" would be nice.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: ganonfloyd on 03 January, 2009, 03:36:40 pm
It would be nice to have some knowledge about what the staff actually do, as we can't see the Mod board, and therefore have no clue. Even just a locked "We are trying to do these:" list topic in general would be nice.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.


Title: Re: I'm requesting to be a global mod
Post by: Lord Callous on 14 January, 2009, 07:37:07 pm
Good luck. ^_^