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Creative Work => Artwork => Topic started by: Rai on 14 April, 2010, 09:56:00 pm



Title: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 14 April, 2010, 09:56:00 pm
And also shitty printer, combined with my being often too lazy to darken lines once the picture has been otherwise completed, resulting in scanned versions of penciled drawings looking like ass.

I wanted to make a new topic because I decided it would be easier to just make a new one rather than trying to properly and effectively revive the old one. Plus these drawings are significantly better and will be more varied.

First, a human character! WHAT

HE IS NOT CRYING IT IS BLOOD

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/ItsRainingFun.png)

I could get into all sorts of **** about the character, but that would be stupid, but I'll just sum up the point of the picture with: He's immortal.


Next, mandatory anthropomorphic cat is mandatory,

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/MandatoryCat.png)

Although it's worth noting that this is just significantly better than previous drawings of aforementioned mandatory cat. For reference, here's a picture of the same character, but drawn about a year (and a half?) ago:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/downpat.png)

Indeed.


And finally, your childhood memories improved:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/ChildhoodMemories-BanjoandKazooie.png)

Or violently raped, whichever you prefer. I like to think that if they have been raped, it's solely by my inability to properly capture the awesome the idea this picture contains in a 5 minute doodle. If you'd prefer, simply imagine the exact same drawing, but more awesome.

Bam. Improved.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: IngSlayer on 14 April, 2010, 10:04:21 pm
First pic looks like it's raining toothpicks.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 14 April, 2010, 10:09:09 pm
Maybe it is.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 14 April, 2010, 10:26:46 pm
I initially thought the first guy was being impaled by rain, but then I realized that
First pic looks like it's raining toothpicks.
this was probably what was happening.

Good stuff though. That cat looks like a badass. Coattails of doom are always fun.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 14 April, 2010, 10:36:20 pm
I honestly did not stop for one moment when drawing the first picture to wonder exactly what was falling.

It was just sharp things. Toothpicks, as it turns out.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 14 April, 2010, 10:39:05 pm
Oh, here are some older things (not more than a month old, though).

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/RaizorBlaidSized.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/008.jpg)

I forgot to crop and manually resize the Joker when I first uploaded it. Luckily Photobucket auto-resizes. This is the only time in my life in which I will praise that it does this.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Ƨɒlƚy on 14 April, 2010, 10:40:59 pm
First pic looks like it's raining toothpicks.

Also, The Deep Mystery of EVA snrk snrk snrk


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 14 April, 2010, 11:44:43 pm
Pretty coo'.

I'd like to see colored versions one day.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 14 April, 2010, 11:52:35 pm
Hate colouring by hand; I don't have the patience, the tools, or the practice to make it look very good. Besides, scanner will reduce all hand-done works in quality by about 20%.

Digital colouring is kinda tedious (though now that I have a better mouse it's doable), and honestly, good colouring done via hand (see: yours) often looks better than digital colouring.

Well, my digital colouring anyway.


So I think the next thing I'm gonna take a shot at and show is a landscape. I have no idea to what degree it will be realistic or fantastical though. I haven't actually tried on a landscape in several months.

And god damn first picture bugs me the more I see it because what is supposed to be blood looks like tears and I don't want none of that **** in my pitchers.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 15 April, 2010, 12:04:25 am
Yep, definitely thought they were tears.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 15 April, 2010, 12:07:07 am
ffffff


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 15 April, 2010, 12:08:14 am
All fixed.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 15 April, 2010, 12:09:19 am
So how's Eko these days?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Ƨɒlƚy on 15 April, 2010, 12:12:24 am
ORAGINIL CHARICATURE DUE KNOT STEEL


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 15 April, 2010, 12:15:40 am
I dunno. After like a forever of back-and-forthing his character and design a while back, he's been almost completely solid for the past while and I haven't really changed him much at all. I've been more interested lately in properly fleshing out Maderro (above cat), considering his character has more dimensions (or it's supposed to), and I find him more entertaining to draw; sleek villainous characters are always quite fun. His clothes actually work with his personality and make the drawings look cool. Eko's... Less so. I haven't figured out how to make them flow with his movements as well. Not that I've tried very hard.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 15 April, 2010, 12:42:45 am
Coloring by hand is definintly time consuming...but patience is important in order to improve.

I always thought your digital coloring was excellent. The color schemes and compositions worked well in the Blue Balance, Solar Sniper, and Red Rhythm character drawings.


Landscapes...those are pretty difficult. I can bearly place characters in a room.

Lulz, whats wrong with tears?

 


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 15 April, 2010, 02:12:49 pm
Hurgurg I hate those drawings now.

Eko looked awkward and not as sleek as he should (and the so-called buildings were stupid). Lake's colourscheme was entirely improvised and it didn't come out as colourful and vibrant as I prefer it now. I wasn't used to drawing Kafka at all yet and attempted a sort of pose I had never really done before, and it looked awkward.

Plus they were all done in GIMP with overly thick lines. Not to mention I can simply draw them better now. Might try revisions of those concepts though. Maybe with some other characters too.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Hawk_v3 on 15 April, 2010, 02:19:10 pm
Huh. Nice pics.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 15 April, 2010, 02:46:23 pm
More birds, please.
Translated.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 15 April, 2010, 02:54:29 pm
Whats GIMP?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Hawk_v3 on 15 April, 2010, 03:02:16 pm
Wrong, I like the pictures.

GIMP =Gnu Image Manipulation Program.

Tis free. I use it.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 15 April, 2010, 04:23:08 pm
I used to use GIMP before I got Photoshop and all that.... It's really good....

That thanks to you and Rai updating has inspired me to draw more.... I have all my characters and I know how I wanna start my story....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 15 April, 2010, 04:46:34 pm
GIMP is good, all things considered, but I just really love the polygonal lasso, and find that while it's generally possible to get to the same ends in both programs (as long as you aren't going really extreme), GIMP's just more difficult to use for complex stuff.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: IngSlayer on 15 April, 2010, 04:52:24 pm
I only use GIMP for avatars and signatures, never for drawings. Too complex, plus I prefer coloring my drawings with colored pencils.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 15 April, 2010, 04:56:16 pm
I don't even own a solid set of coloured pencils. When I get a box of them, I buy it noncritically, and often deal with them being really skritchy (if anyone gets what I mean), nigh impossible to sharpen, and with a poor colour selection.

I've never been able to shade with the damn things either. When making one shade darker than another shade, it involves colouring solidly for the darker shade, and the light shading being ugly colour scribbles intermittently strewn over an evidently white surface.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 15 April, 2010, 05:00:09 pm
By the way screw the landscape I'll do that later. I feel like drawing something else.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 15 April, 2010, 05:50:57 pm
I like Gimp, despite having to learn special techniques to take advantage of it's full potential. I have never had Photoshop and don't ever intend to buy it(400 dollars my ass), but I'm sure it's easier and faster to use than Gimp.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 16 April, 2010, 01:11:54 am
Whats GIMP?

 :)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 16 April, 2010, 01:18:18 am
 ???


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 16 April, 2010, 07:03:53 am
Try this.... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gimp&l=1)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 27 April, 2010, 03:45:33 pm
Hey I'm back. I dunno what I said I was going to draw before. A landscape or something. Yeah nevermind. I mean, I didn't just ignore the idea, I did practice them, but got bored, and didn't work on any of them enough to bother showing, sooo.... Instead I did a comic.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/1-AlwaysBeingWatched.png)

That font is a ****. I drew the "#1" first so to make sure the rest of the title fit properly I had to write it backwards.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 27 April, 2010, 03:51:02 pm
I chuckled.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 27 April, 2010, 06:56:32 pm
'Love Kazooie's facial expression.

I hate when you have to write things backwards so the words fit correctly. That font looks really good.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 27 April, 2010, 07:14:13 pm
the C's look like G's though. You can tell in context what they are, but it still bugs me.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 27 April, 2010, 07:17:40 pm
You look like a dork.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 27 April, 2010, 07:21:24 pm
That's the idea.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 27 April, 2010, 07:24:47 pm
Yeah, do you generally wear a tie while gaming?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 27 April, 2010, 07:40:38 pm
Well, he could have just got home from school and didn't feel like changing.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 27 April, 2010, 07:42:54 pm
Sometimes I do. I wear a tie a lot. I used to more, but after doing so three days a week, wearing normal clothes was more comfortable (and one of the ties got ruined). Now it's only once a week or so, for reasons as minor as something interesting going on in a class at school or going to a friend's house for a little while. It's the most interesting attire I have, so it works best on a cartoon character who will inevitably wear the same clothes all the time.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 27 April, 2010, 07:43:51 pm
No; don't have school uniforms. I just like them <_<

Because the one I always wear is purple, and I always wear it with my black dress shirt that has vertical purple stripes.

....

It looks better than it sounds.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 27 April, 2010, 08:03:32 pm
Sounds like formal attire for Waluigi.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 27 April, 2010, 10:30:27 pm
You can have your own style and all, but stick to light colored/pale dress shirts. No straight red/blue/black. And avoid patterned ties.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 28 April, 2010, 02:20:47 pm
I hate patterned ties. Not a tie I have is patterned. But I only have three, so.

Though I do have a personal goal of finding the absolute worst tie ever conceived and purchasing it. Just because.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: NPC Overlord Nikoleis on 28 April, 2010, 02:50:46 pm
... Is B&K that hard? Never played it...

Also, ties are meh.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 28 April, 2010, 03:07:48 pm
... Is B&K that hard? Never played it...

Also, ties are meh.
I consider B&K only hard at certain spots, it's not as bad as the original Spyro which was easy all over the place but had two spots that were nigh-impossible to figure out without the internet or a demonstration video.

And ties suck, I like suits without the tie.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 28 April, 2010, 03:51:06 pm
No, it's not especially hard. Some of the jiggies prove to be quite a challenge, but it's never so hard that I'd identify it by that.

It is hard to play with a d-pad though.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 28 April, 2010, 04:09:07 pm
Thin ties are awesome. Thin knitted ones are more awesome. The fat, loud ones suck in general.


...


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 28 April, 2010, 04:32:40 pm
Thin ties are awesome. Thin knitted ones are more awesome. The fat, loud ones suck in general.


...
There's a happy median here.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 28 April, 2010, 05:06:10 pm
wat


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 28 April, 2010, 06:20:21 pm
A good standard thickness tie with a nice pattern is fine too, and preferable in my book as I don't like thin or fat ties.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 28 April, 2010, 06:35:06 pm
My favorite tie is a non-existent one.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 28 April, 2010, 06:59:05 pm
A good standard thickness tie with a nice pattern is fine too, and preferable in my book as I don't like thin or fat ties.

"Median" though? I've only heard the phrase "happy medium". "Median" makes me think of the separation on two way streets.

And yeah, those ties are fine. Patterned ones should still be avoided though.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 28 April, 2010, 07:24:18 pm
Oh whatever. >_>


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 28 April, 2010, 07:46:48 pm
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/Spring524Loaded/you_mad.png)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 28 April, 2010, 07:51:20 pm
I still think patterns are perfectly fine. I'm talking about stripes and polka dots (tasteful), and that is assuming your shirt is a solid color. The rules are a bit different for my favorite style of tie, the bow tie.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 28 April, 2010, 07:56:13 pm
TIES ARE NEVER TASTEFUL.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 28 April, 2010, 08:02:48 pm
I don't like bow ties.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 28 April, 2010, 08:03:45 pm
Bow ties are ugly beyond belief.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 28 April, 2010, 08:17:56 pm
*Custom title*


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 28 April, 2010, 08:31:36 pm
I still think patterns are perfectly fine. I'm talking about stripes and polka dots (tasteful), and that is assuming you're shirt is a solid color. The rules are a bit different for my favorite style of tie, the bow tie.

Stripes are cool. Poka dots are not.

Checkers can be cool too, in small amounts.

And the rest of y'all are stupid because bowties are pretty kickass.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 28 April, 2010, 08:32:24 pm
And I don't really know how you can have a small amount of checkers on a tie as opposed to a large amount; I was talking about general fashion...


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: IngSlayer on 28 April, 2010, 08:39:19 pm
This talk about ties is reminding me of a short story someone I met wrote about a crazed dude getting so nervous about his date with some woman that at one point he tries to hang himself with his own tie.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 28 April, 2010, 09:02:10 pm
It is a bit distressing practically walking around with a noose on.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 28 April, 2010, 09:52:02 pm
Dress clothing is a liability.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 April, 2010, 12:02:04 am
Probably why gentlemen are always such badasses. Gotta be pretty kickass to walk around like that and not get hanged or stuck in a wood chipper.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 May, 2010, 07:33:51 pm
'kay I got bored and designed a mecha and its pilots. Picture will be up soon. I've even got some ideas for it that could be really neat, but I have no idea how far I'll go with it. It's proving to be a pain in the ass because I absolutely suck at designing mechs. I just thought I'd press onwards because I figured, even if the preliminary design sucks, I can spend a few weeks tweaking its design until it works. The pilots though, I like. Their names are stupid but I love them: Fritter and Flutter.

So, that'll be like 20 minutes. Not trying to go for some "hey guys you better spend the next half hour anticipating my awful mech drawing", I just wanted to post something now <_<

I'd like it if I could get some decent feedback on this once I post it, considering this is a pretty new design for me and I'm very liberal about doing even massive changes to the design if some people think a part looks stupid / looks too much like something else / has a much better idea.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 10 May, 2010, 07:39:25 pm
'kay I got bored and designed a mecha and its pilots. Picture will be up soon. I've even got some ideas for it that could be really neat, but I have no idea how far I'll go with it. It's proving to be a pain in the ass because I absolutely suck at designing mechs. I just thought I'd press onwards because I figured, even if the preliminary design sucks, I can spend a few weeks tweaking its design until it works. The pilots though, I like. Their names are stupid but I love them: Fritter and Flutter.

So, that'll be like 20 minutes. Not trying to go for some "hey guys you better spend the next half hour anticipating my awful mech drawing", I just wanted to post something now <_<

I'd like it if I could get some decent feedback on this once I post it, considering this is a pretty new design for me and I'm very liberal about doing even massive changes to the design if some people think a part looks stupid / looks too much like something else / has a much better idea.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 10 May, 2010, 07:40:50 pm
olofastreply


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 May, 2010, 07:44:34 pm
Yeees those are their names.

And I'm already annoyed at this drawing because I drew the legs too small. But whatever.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 10 May, 2010, 07:46:58 pm
Is it more Gundam than Power Rangers? A mix of the two? Neither?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 May, 2010, 07:52:15 pm
The mech design? Geez I dunno. It isn't strangely colour uncoordinated with a bunch of different themes forming into one admittedly awesome looking robot... And it doesn't have the sheer detail and visual functionality that Gundams have that makes them look like something that someone could have actually built. And then built another robot on top of.

Then added horns.

And the more I look at what I have the more I see how it looks suspiciously like other mechs I've seen and I hate it more. But that's what posting it here's gonna be for.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 May, 2010, 08:05:31 pm
**** I hate this thing already. Rip it apart.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/wtfisthisthing.png)

And ignore the people those are awful drawings of them so I erase them. Wonderfully.

The thing was fun to draw when I started, because I could experiment, but the further I went with the same design, the less fun it got as I began to run out of consistent, original ideas, and the limitations of the concept became more evident and I was pretty much locked in, until I finally started absolutely hating it upon finishing his legs (last thing drawn), quite evident from the fact that his legs are completely disproportionate because I just didn't care then <_<


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 May, 2010, 08:08:47 pm
Yeah I know its face is basically Gurren-Lagann's face. I never got around to coming up with a decent face design myself, so I just said **** it and used that until I could come up with something better. Other ideas involved a mouthplate ala Mazinger but in the design of fanged teeth, but then it'd be hard to justify a neutrality theme.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 10 May, 2010, 10:24:29 pm
Lulz, at first glance I thought he was blowing up. I would have liked to see the other chacters, though...


The hands, head, and torso are nicely drawn. I love the pose and the motion the upper body appears to have, but the legs seem a little stiff. Mid-torso looks slightly off, as if its not in the same perspective as the rest of the body. The left shoulder appears to be flat; I suggest giving the pipe and the adjacent piece more of a bend around to his back.

The design itself looks nice so far, but in my opinion, the torn clothing and leg pads feel out of place. It just seems like a smoother look would be more fitting, if only because of the suit collar and tie impression on his armor (which I really like). If the clothing is torn only because of battle, then nevermind what I just said.


Overall its a good drawing. I'd like to see this one in color the most. Don't get discouraged if a drawing isn't turning out right, just take your time and be patient.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 May, 2010, 11:08:37 pm
I started shoehorning samurai-esque **** on because, while it's piloted by two people, the focus on the collar and tie made the mech design lean more towards one pilot than the other, and I was too lazy to think of more clever ways to represent her.

And by left shoulder, do you mean his left, or our left? I imagine our left, considering his left shoulder is mostly obscured, and our left one does actually, well, look like what you're saying.

And wow it does look like he's blowing up, at a glance. I always have trouble with explosions. From now on I'll just draw people and flail the eraser tool around them for about twelve seconds <_<

Though I must say that seeing him coloured wouldn't do much aside from the fancy lineart that comes with digital colouring, because the whole thing is supposed to be more or less black and white. Any other colour on it would be miniscule.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 May, 2010, 11:11:02 pm
*starts doodling again*

well it took all of five seconds to implement a mouthguard that didn't look stupid.

Hooray for actually trying things.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 10 May, 2010, 11:19:52 pm
*scrutinizes*


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 10 May, 2010, 11:34:26 pm
ahh, I see.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 May, 2010, 11:43:19 pm
This is hard. Whenever I think of leaning more toward the really sleek side, I think of Eva and then I go "no way bro" and beef him up and add more squares. Then it starts to look uninspired and... Well, like many other super robots, minus the distinguishable features (face stomach, shades, chest-wing things, giant horns...), therefore being lame.

dfhewuihwug

This is going to take weeks to get down. I've never designed a robot before because I always started and went "geez man this is hard" then drew a cat or something.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 10 May, 2010, 11:58:50 pm
XD

I don't do robots, myself. References could help.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 11 May, 2010, 12:03:01 am
That robot has a tie.

I approve. Keep up the good work.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 11 May, 2010, 12:10:27 am
References are hard because super robots are all over the place. Some are simple,

(http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/107/495/647/bQGdlpfyMiXJHxa.jpg)

But you see those goddamn chest wings and you're like "I know what that is even if I have never seen it in my life".

Then you've got freaking **** like this

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/fxtricky/1eva.jpg)

ffffffffffffffff


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 11 May, 2010, 12:11:47 am
This is the process of finding your own style. It takes some people years, decades.

Rob64: Keep up the good work.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 11 May, 2010, 12:14:12 am
but, but,

(http://static2.animepaper.net/upload/thumbs/scans/Brave-King-GaoGaiGar/%5Blarge%5D%5BAnimePaper%5Dscans_Brave-King-GaoGaiGar_ferumaru_77928.jpg)

(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs40/f/2009/021/2/9/FFFFFFFFFFF_by_Sixtem.png)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 11 May, 2010, 06:12:41 pm
I may take a shot a drawing a robot too, though. If it turns out ok, then I'll post it.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 12 May, 2010, 09:41:50 pm
You'll make me feel worse.

...Do it.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 13 May, 2010, 12:14:49 am
I picture Raizor handing out whips/wiffle bats to everyone, tying himself to a fence and bracing for people to beat him, only to have one person look around briefly before tapping him with their bat/whip.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 13 May, 2010, 11:57:28 am
Roots.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 13 May, 2010, 05:21:43 pm
Well, this is harder that I thought it would be.

Going for a female robot.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 13 May, 2010, 05:27:20 pm
I could probably draw a female robot pretty well, I've always been better at drawing girls(Don't ask why) than males despite almost mastering more realistic muscle physiques.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 13 May, 2010, 05:35:26 pm
My drawings of female robots would end up undoubtedly heavily inspired by Sayrune and Solvernia


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 13 May, 2010, 06:48:35 pm
Also,

I picture Raizor handing out whips/wiffle bats to everyone, tying himself to a fence and bracing for people to beat him, only to have one person look around briefly before tapping him with their bat/whip.

Just in this topic, or all the time?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 13 May, 2010, 06:52:58 pm
...[/jawo]


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 13 May, 2010, 06:56:59 pm
*bites down on lip and furiously expels air through the few gaps in a frustrated manner*


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 17 May, 2010, 08:24:04 pm
I was liking my new design until I saw ESH's.

God damnit.

(also, deleted posts that didn't matter)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 17 May, 2010, 08:25:19 pm
Draw a mecha cat with chainsaw limbs.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 17 May, 2010, 08:26:33 pm
I don't want to do anything related to a cat.

Besides, the last time I had a mecha cat it looked stupid.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 17 May, 2010, 08:26:58 pm
A snifit then.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 17 May, 2010, 08:29:54 pm
No, I have my design. I'm just building on it. I've got the head and torso pretty much exactly how I want them. It's the **** limbs. I can't make them groove with the rest of the design.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 17 May, 2010, 08:33:27 pm
Try try again then. >>


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 17 May, 2010, 08:39:32 pm
Lulz, ESH's robot is really something else.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 17 May, 2010, 08:45:50 pm
...Somewhere down the line, these proportions got right **** up and I didn't even notice. In fact, looking at it on paper, I still don't really notice, but on the computer it looks obvious to me, so I dunno.... He's supposed to look wider than this, but I dunno what happened.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/mecha.png)

Legs need to be longer, and the bottom, closer to the ankle, needs to be wider. But not fat, or anything like Mega Man X legs... All the armour needs to look powerful, and somewhat bulky, yet still streamed right into the synthetic, thin parts like his stomach and upper arms/legs... His fists needs to be large, but not overly, and his head needs to be smaller (this wasn't a design flaw I had in my head, just how it came out when I drew it... Which makes sense, considering the things I usually draw...). Basically, something strong and mobile...

I still don't even have a name for the damn thing. It's probably better to wait until I have a design I like anyway, though...


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 17 May, 2010, 08:46:21 pm
Oh, and his crotch needs to be bigger (lulz)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 17 May, 2010, 08:57:18 pm
What the hell is up with the crappy ties?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 17 May, 2010, 09:01:33 pm
It's drawn out and used as a sword with a separating blade.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 17 May, 2010, 09:21:40 pm
Wow, I like this design alot better than the first. He certainly has a darker appearance this time around.

When the line work is finished in a drawing, I sometimes scan it right then to see how it looks on screen. Usually I find errors than I couldn't see on paper. Maybe its because we're working at a slight angle, that things become off?



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 17 May, 2010, 09:52:05 pm
Yeah. It's felt like a gradual change over time for me because I've had about seven designs so far that I've cycled through, trying to find one I liked. I hadn't even realized the jump that resulted from only showing the first one and this one. The chest is mostly exactly where I want it... And has been since the start, but I'm getting solid shoulder-pads, and just last night, after doodling only heads for an hour, I decided on the one-eyed head.

And yeah, the angle does cause the actually rather narrow drawing to look wider, or rather, less tall, so wider in comparison.

Now I know how I'm gonna do the upper arms and upper legs (not hard, just synthetic material), but I imagine it'll take a while to get the armour the way I like it.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 17 May, 2010, 09:54:54 pm
And now for the perfect excuse to marathon as many super robot shows as I can actually find (it is surprisingly difficult to find things like Mazinger and Getter online...)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 17 May, 2010, 11:57:14 pm
What the hell is up with the crappy ties?
Don't hate on the ties, man.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 18 May, 2010, 07:54:49 am
What the hell is up with the crappy ties?
Don't hate on the ties, son.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 18 May, 2010, 03:23:16 pm
Design is complete, unless a stroke of genius runs me over:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/raizor_blaid/superrobot.png)

Still need to work on getting in the habit of making the head smaller.

The pose is as basic as can be, partially because I couldn't think of anything and wanted to get the design down before I lost the will, and because I'm going to use this for testing colours.

And I only did the dark/line shading so it would look better when scanned... Any actual shading is just lost on this piece of crap scanner.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 18 May, 2010, 03:34:09 pm
...And I guess to explain the mech, it's piloted by two people: Fritter the Black, and Flutter the White. Dormant state of the robot is as a briefcase with a suspiciously face-esque design on it.

The stripes/tron-lines it has all over it glow different colours to denote different... Things. Dunno yet.
As for weapons...
It can micro-vibrate its palms for hand-to-hand combat.
Its rib-like things wrapping around the synthetic torso can extend and stab short distances.
The tops of its hips open up, revealing small missiles.
It's not obvious from the drawing (because I didn't draw it hur durf), but those blades on his cuffs? There are two of those on each wrist, really close and parallel to each other; scythe-like blades come out of there.
And finally, in spite of how short the tie appears to be, it can be drawn out and used as a rather large sword.

I had been contemplating giving it the ability to pull weapons out of portable portals, but with all these, that seems unnecessary... But I really want to use the Wide Spectrum Gun and the Chainsaw Fists... And don't know how to incorporate those into his design.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 18 May, 2010, 03:39:12 pm
Sweet.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 22 July, 2010, 11:42:47 pm
WELL THAT **** WITH THE MECHS DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE of course.

So, today, after like two weeks, I decided, "I am going to draw something, because I feel like doing so. I will put all of my effort into whatever I select, and it will be a very good drawing by my standards".

But I could not. Draw. Anything. I spent like half an hour just wasting paper on things I could not draw for some reason, thinking about things I didn't feel like drawing, and then beginning to rage.

So, in the end, I finally got something down on paper. Here it is.


(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6185/tortoise.png)


I don't know why I drew this.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 22 July, 2010, 11:44:13 pm
It's representative of your own mind being frustrated with how slow it is acting today


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 22 July, 2010, 11:46:08 pm
Of course.

Though by the time I finished drawing it, I was tempted to mount a rocket engine on its shell, but the lines were too dark to erase so I scrapped that idea.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 22 July, 2010, 11:48:51 pm
And there it will sit for all eternity. Just a turtle

I am in love with it. Do you have a desktop size?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 22 July, 2010, 11:50:49 pm
Why isn't he happy?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 22 July, 2010, 11:56:58 pm
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1509/tortoisedesktop.png (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1509/tortoisedesktop.png)

for my loyal fans


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 23 July, 2010, 12:04:13 am
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/Spring524Loaded/true_beauty.png)

He's like angry and afraid at/of the desktop items but he actually welcomes their presence because he's constantly surrounded by nothing


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 23 July, 2010, 12:05:26 am
What a tormented soul I have constructed with these hands of mine.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 26 July, 2010, 11:14:22 am
So I was looking for a new desktop, when for little reason I decided, "I should draw my own desktop!"

So I basically want it to have a handful of characters, settings, and references to things I like, abstracted into a different setting.

My original idea was sort of a black and white film noir crime scene with nozomu dead, the moon having the Eva blood stripe on it, Spike and Roger Smith asking Satou from NHK some questions, among other things, possibly set outside the Naota's home in FLCL.

That was before I thought "hmm maybe video game characters too"

But that didn't work because I couldn't work the characters the way I wanted and I didn't like that setting at all and whatever.

So I need a new setting and theme. And I can't think of one.

Someone help.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 26 July, 2010, 11:26:13 am
Needs more GAR....

Or fanservice.... Or both....

But don't ask me.... The last thing I drew was a moe female me being raped by another woman.... I think I'm not all there right now.... Needless to say I will never show you guys....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 26 July, 2010, 11:30:53 am
Needs more GAR....

Would but many characters I like would be awkward in such situations.

Also GAR doesn't work when spread across several characters in one image.

The last thing I drew was a moe female me being raped by another woman....

also what


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 26 July, 2010, 11:38:30 am
Needs more GAR....

Would but many characters I like would be awkward in such situations.

Also GAR doesn't work when spread across several characters in one image.
GAR always works....

The last thing I drew was a moe female me being raped by another woman....

also what
The less you ask the better off you'll be....

You see first I drew normal female version of me.... Then I just sort when a little crazy and started a new picture.... I'm.... She's not being raped but more like groped while naked.... I used some of the Doujinshi I was readin at the time as reference so it's sort graphic.... I feel very.... Sickened by it really.... But I did a good job so I don't want to delete it....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 26 July, 2010, 11:41:03 am
But the GAR becomes spread out and diluted and in the end you just have several characters who are 'oh pretty cool' whereas had all of their forces been combined into one or two it would be GAR.

GAR is still there regardless yes, but it is invisible to the human eye if it is not actively searching for it.

You see first I drew normal female version of me.... Then I just sort when a little crazy and started a new picture.... I'm.... She's not being raped but more like groped while naked.... I used some of the Doujinshi I was readin at the time as reference so it's sort graphic.... I feel very.... Sickened by it really.... But I did a good job so I don't want to delete it....

also post it

There are more people who would like to see it than there are people who wouldn't.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 26 July, 2010, 11:45:44 am
wait no I just realized what we were talking about again

don't post it


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 26 July, 2010, 11:48:10 am
Yeah.... Nobody will see this.... It's not because it's too dirty although it sorta is.... It's because I can't have anyone else see it and have it get around.... It's just wrong....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 26 July, 2010, 02:25:27 pm
Your original idea was fine. You'd be better off making multiple desktops instead of combing everything you like into one.

The only way to integrate everything would be to have a character select screen or some kind of restaurant scene.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 27 July, 2010, 02:52:15 am
I wasn't exactly going for everything I liked, just the notable things.

but I think I'll take another crack at the original idea, yeah.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 08 August, 2010, 03:13:01 am
That fizzled out because I couldn't find paper and then got bored then I found a cool disgaea desktop.

But I've been reading Bakuman relentlessly, and now I really want to draw a bunch of new things, and experiment with old things in new ways, so I'm gonna search for some paper tomorrow, and maybe pick up another pack if I can't find any.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: the nameless one on 08 August, 2010, 03:19:37 am
I love everything about your last post. Disgaea kicks ass, and Bakuman's an AMAZING manga...It's the reason I've been drawing nonstop for the last few days, and trying to find reference points on manga...


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 08 August, 2010, 05:03:18 am
Otter 11 is way better.... But yeah it was pretty awesome to see it defictionalized.... Plus Hiramaru is one of my favourite characters....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 08 August, 2010, 02:16:55 pm
Pleasantly surprising to find that bakuman's just started coming out in english, so now I have two manga to buy.

But yeah. I ain't got no paper, so I probably won't be able to draw anything until late tonight or tomorrow.

The time when I can purchase my tablet laptop draws near... Yess... Then paper will be nothing more than a nice bonus and something to be used on the most serious of drawings.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 08 August, 2010, 02:18:05 pm
And Otters 11 isn't better than Detective Trap :|

Though it does sound ridiculously badass anyway.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 08 August, 2010, 03:43:47 pm
HAVE YOU EVEN READ OTTERS 11!?

It's almost like some sort of twisted outlet for Hiramaru's hate for Yoshida and want for a break....

Also I would think you'd be using a tablet the other way round.... You stuff on there will look better for one and of course you don't want to wear down your pen by drawing nothing all the time.... What are you planning on getting?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 08 August, 2010, 04:01:39 pm
I've used a tablet before, and with the way I hold writing utensils, I think anything really good would be better done on paper first and then traced with the tablet. Besides, you can get new pen nibs depending on the stylus.

I was thinking about a Touchsmart TM2. I haven't looked around a lot yet, that one just seems nice, before I actually buy one I'll do some more extensive research and ask around.

My problem with tablets my be more derived from the one I used before being a separate... Thing, and it not being mine so I had little time to adjust. But using the screen itself just seems way more effective.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 08 August, 2010, 04:14:00 pm
I use a Cintiq 21ux....

I draw straight to screen and don't even bother with paper....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 10 August, 2010, 01:15:39 am
Anyway, gonna throw up two drawings. Both of Eko, so blah catpeople and whatever, but I'm just most comfortable with him so I'm going to use him to experiment with more drastic action poses.

The first one... Is not an action pose in any way. Just caught up in Bakuman and wanted to draw something, and I was interesting in if I'd do better, as well as how much Bakuman would influence the overall drawing.

(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3860/anothermaderro.png)

I've noticed it in the teeth, at least. That might be it.

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8467/itsapunch.png)

Anyway, this one isn't even done. And likely won't be because I had to darken the guidelines for it to scan properly. I realized I didn't know how to finish it, so I just did Eko's head and left the body a stickish figure. I don't really have a problem with Eko's pose here (though I bet I could definitely use some advice there anyway), but as for who he'd be punching, I have no idea how to draw them receiving it.

Maybe I should practice punching people in the face and see what they look like.


I'm also interested in taking several of my previous human characters and snatching aspects of them frankenstein style to see about making a new human character who can easily stand above them. Not just the character, but the backgrounds and plots surrounding them. Not in a half-assed "well I had an immortal guy and a detective and a robot pilot and an android so I should make an immortal android detective who pilots a bigger android" sort of way... Though that does sound cool... Mmm... Anyway.

I know I always say "well it was anthromorphs this time BUT NEXT TIME PEOPLE" or "NEXT TIME ACTION" or "NEXT TIME SOMETHING NEW" with me either forgetting, not caring, or just not drawing, but... Well, no, I can't promise anything different this time.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 11 August, 2010, 10:54:48 pm
I think I have both writer's block and artist's block at the same time. I want to draw a new character, but I have trouble designing a character without knowing his personality and setting, and I can't think up a single thing on that front. Meanwhile I try to practice my basics on faces and I can't come up with a single eye shape that I think looks good. Just eyes and they're bugging me so much.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 11 August, 2010, 10:58:31 pm
I don't know what you can do and I can't help you at all. If you took my advice you'd be making Russian riot-cops during a series of societal revolts and it wouldn't feel "Raizor"-y


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 11 August, 2010, 11:20:13 pm
Everything that isn't Eko seems like I'm just reworking the same concepts or designs around and trying to make it better... Which is why I often feel like ditching older characters in favour of sucking out their defining characteristics and sticking them all together into some weird creature that I call a human character.

Eko isn't an original character at all, but I still don't get how I came up with him. Everything else is grinning men who frequently happen to be wearing suits, ties, or have fuzzy hoods. They also tend to have plain, flat black hair.

I think it's seeing Detective Trap in Bakuman, and then thinking "god damnit I wish I thought of that" that's made me come to this conclusion, because I realized most of my human characters are similar to him in some way. It's like he was the end I was trying to reach but someone else got there first. I mean it's a manga in a manga that failed in the ratings and got canceled in-universe, but still.

Now I'm left fumbling around, holding every character I make or have made up to that Trap standard even though Trap isn't like some horribly unique character or anything, trying to figure out exactly what is "Raizor"-y.

Eyes and noses are what are bugging me most of all right now. All the eyes and noses look like Nether. And those eyes are terribly unemotive and difficult to use on multiple characters. Noses are problematic not because I only draw them one way, but because I'm not even very good at that one way and they look like they're taking up too much face space.


After that comes clothes, but that's not a problem with drawing, it's a conceptual problem and I just need to think of something. It would probably be better if I didn't think too much about it and just went along not stressing over it, but I've been not thinking about characters for months now and obviously nothing's happened so I need to try a little.

I'm tempted to look at the things I like but I know I'll just accidentally rip them off. Then again, Eko Maderro basically started like that, but I revised him enough that he became less horribly unoriginal.

AND NOW I'M RANTING.

I'm just going to stop and think for a bit. Maybe music will help.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 19 August, 2010, 06:39:56 pm
Shameless pose theft.

(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/539/scottkimstillsramona.png)

It was fun, and surprisingly easy/quick. Usually when drawing characters next to each other, I mess up the proportions significantly. And when I'm trying to precisely copy another picture, I'll position things slightly wrong, and then position things in relation to those slightly wrong things in a slightly wrong way again, on and on, creating a chain reaction then ends up with a person's ear on their hip.

BUT THIS WENT WELL.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 19 August, 2010, 08:56:58 pm
I have sigs turned off, but I'm going to click on your name and expect to see that as your sig.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 19 August, 2010, 08:59:45 pm
No but I think my current sig is better.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 19 August, 2010, 09:07:35 pm
hmmmidontknowaboutthat


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 19 August, 2010, 09:08:53 pm
>:|


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 19 August, 2010, 09:18:41 pm
hmmm


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: IngSlayer on 19 August, 2010, 09:18:45 pm
oh i though yur avvy was an ohsee


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 19 August, 2010, 09:25:18 pm
...What?

Oh. OC. Nope.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 19 August, 2010, 11:42:25 pm
Cool. I love the outlining and shading on that one.

It'd make a great sig.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 20 August, 2010, 12:48:43 am
I've been outlining where shading will go, as you do.

And I'm sure many others.

But I either got bored or forgot halfway through so that didn't happen with everyone.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 20 August, 2010, 11:56:09 am
Ah, I see.


So how's the new character coming along? Creating a new character can be pretty hard, but its easier if you map out personality and stuff first.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 20 August, 2010, 02:48:48 pm
I always find the clothes the hardest thing to think up.... Why can't I just make somthing where they don't where clothes?

....

Wait.... I have an awesome idea! Get me Adol!

Seriously though I have some ideas of stuff I wanna do it's just I haven't got the time lately.... The only stuff I can do lately are those chibi drawings at work.... And if I were to do a comic like I wanna do I'd need someone to write because I'm not that good at it.... I can't think of the main ideas, characters and a few plot points but dialogue and the details of the plot are hard.... Plus I'd want someone to bounce ideas off and keep me focused.... I alway get a new idea and build that up right in the middle of building up another....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 20 August, 2010, 03:40:49 pm
Lulz. Clothes are pretty fun to experiment with, though. I'd be one of those artist that have the characters in something different when its a different day in the show. Those back-to-school things that come with news papers provide excellent ideas for clothing most of the time, so I use those...

Writing is tough. I find it easiest to outline the key events and then link them together with minor ones.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 20 August, 2010, 03:50:53 pm
So how's the new character coming along? Creating a new character can be pretty hard, but its easier if you map out personality and stuff first.

Not working on it right now. I'm gonna read some manga and comics and stuff first and let that seep into my style, whilst waiting around and seeing if any interesting personalities/concepts come to me, then I'll draw it up.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Marie Rose on 20 August, 2010, 04:33:46 pm
I always find the clothes the hardest thing to think up.... Why can't I just make somthing where they don't where clothes?

....

Wait.... I have an awesome idea! Get me Adol!

Seriously though I have some ideas of stuff I wanna do it's just I haven't got the time lately.... The only stuff I can do lately are those chibi drawings at work.... And if I were to do a comic like I wanna do I'd need someone to write because I'm not that good at it.... I can't think of the main ideas, characters and a few plot points but dialogue and the details of the plot are hard.... Plus I'd want someone to bounce ideas off and keep me focused.... I alway get a new idea and build that up right in the middle of building up another....
What kind of help would you need exactly?...besides the other stuff you said.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 20 August, 2010, 04:42:57 pm
What kind of help would you need exactly?...besides the other stuff you said.

Writing is tough. I find it easiest to outline the key events and then link them together with minor ones.

This.... This is where I fail forever....

Also I need to know if my ideas are rubbish or not.... Or if a make a QUALITY drawing.... Sorta editor related stuff....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Marie Rose on 20 August, 2010, 04:50:23 pm
I kinda do that too, borrowing a mixture of small bits from other places and add in my own ideas to make something a little different.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Ahriman on 22 August, 2010, 12:59:19 am
yes the best way to make something new and exciting is to let yourself be influenced by everyone elses creations


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 22 August, 2010, 03:02:57 am
There's no such thing as being an artist and not being influenced by other drawings.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 22 August, 2010, 03:31:24 am
There's no such thing as being an artist and not being influenced by other drawings.

So true.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Marie Rose on 22 August, 2010, 03:55:16 am
yes the best way to make something new and exciting is to let yourself be influenced by everyone elses creations
Influences? In others drawings? Its more likely than you'd think.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: IngSlayer on 22 August, 2010, 06:56:19 am
yes the best way to make something new and exciting is to let yourself be influenced by everyone elses creations

Ha, ha, ha.

I wish good luck to those who try to make something "new and exciting" without any influences.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 22 August, 2010, 07:34:04 am
Everything comes from somewhere.... Though there is a difference between being influenced by something and completely ripping it off....

New and exciting comes from using old ideas but mixing them with other old ideas and using them in different ways based on old ideas.... And even then it'll still be an old idea....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 23 August, 2010, 01:47:11 am
Most drastic thing I've EVER DONE:

Might make Eko's jaw shape rounder and less sharp.

!!!


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 23 August, 2010, 01:48:09 am
**** man this looks good

I could probably even do facial expressions and front views easier like this

why didn't I

why didn't I try this before


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: IngSlayer on 23 August, 2010, 02:10:12 pm
why didn't I

why didn't I try this before

Silver the Hedgehog.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Marie Rose on 23 August, 2010, 02:12:11 pm
wat


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 23 August, 2010, 02:14:42 pm
wat


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 23 August, 2010, 09:12:45 pm
Just a question toward anyone it applies to; how do you folks avoid your smudging? I have a huge problem with that, partially because of how I hold my pencil (underhand style, using a finger to keep my hand up, and said finger slides along the paper or at least presses against it, smudging it). I simply cannot work bottom up. It doesn't work. I've tried using pens too, but those smudge. At least a little. And even though it wasn't as much, it's worse with a pen because I can't clean it. If anyone here uses any decent drawing pens... What do you use?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 23 August, 2010, 10:00:39 pm
I use a sheet of scrap paper and keep it under my hand as I draw.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 23 August, 2010, 11:34:05 pm
Wouldn't paper on paper still smudge it, thought?

...

Okay wow, just went out of my way to try smudging something I just drew with paper, didn't work. Tried with my finger and I **** it up <_<

TIME TO ERASE.

But yeah wow thanks.

Though I'll probably forget.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 24 August, 2010, 06:39:49 am
Yeah, sometimes it will. But not too much, I guess.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: IngSlayer on 24 August, 2010, 11:29:52 am
I don't.

I just erase them. Takes little to no effort.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 24 August, 2010, 12:22:43 pm
Well I only use pens now so smudging is not an option....

I just work carefully.... Paper will help.... I also move the drawing and myself to avoid other lines I've drawn.... Go light on the ink.... And let each line dry before drawing one close to it....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 25 August, 2010, 03:06:27 am
Work in progress is in progress.

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8435/ekoonsomewires.png)

I intend to add a nice city-scape to the background. But I know I'll just ruin the drawing if I try it on the same piece of paper, so I'll do it on a new one. It's not like much will be noticeably connected anyway.

I guess the intention is that those are like telephone wires or something. I dunno even though cats are not squirrels I always like to associate him with wires and telephone... cable... Things.

I just hope I can

1) draw a cityscape

2) draw a cityscape in which a mass of wires doesn't look out of place and like an obvious means of holding the character.

I know if I just say "I'll draw a city", I'll just forget or decide not to, so to keep myself on pace, I'll work on getting the city down while I photoshop what I've already got.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 25 August, 2010, 04:33:33 pm
Looks coo' so far. I'm really liking that pose.

Cityscape...sounds like hard work. Something I avoid often. >.>

You intend to draw it in full detail or kind of in shadow?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: -Heatran- on 25 August, 2010, 06:02:41 pm
Good as always, though he looks batty rather than kitty with those bigass ears and I suppose you're ditching the striped glove-sock things?


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 25 August, 2010, 06:24:19 pm
You intend to draw it in full detail or kind of in shadow?

Intention is to give it actual detail. I just hope I don't lose the sense of style at some point and make a city that is overly detailed considering the character style.

and I suppose you're ditching the striped glove-sock things?

No, I just always forget to do the stripes until I'm at the good copy nowadays.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 25 August, 2010, 06:25:42 pm
This isn't really relevant and won't be the reference I'm using, but I found this and thought it looked cool so I'm gonna post it.

(http://sale.images.woot.com/Concrete_Cityscape8peDetail.jpg)


EDIT: And I guess cityscape isn't a good word. It's going to be almost street-level. You know, the sort of angle you'd except from telephone wires. Makes more sense composition-wise too, because with a road going up the middle, none (or little) of the actual building detail will be obstructed by Eko.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 25 August, 2010, 07:16:44 pm
Don't care about multiposting this is my topic and I'll do whatever I want in it

Spent about a half an hour just doing one building and the surrounding things like sidewalk, streetsigns, streetlight, etc... Geez. I need to remember not to rush, otherwise I'll give less of a **** about the other buildings and it'll be terribly obvious that I started with this one then rushed

Then again the **** streetlight alone looks like something from the far future, so it isn't like this pace is bad.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 26 August, 2010, 01:24:07 am
THOUGHT IT'D THROW THIS HERE.

BUT FIRST I'LL EXPLAIN.

On CE there was one of those "save the princess" topics. Well, that's not really how to define it. You know, they give you a drawing, then you draw on it. In this case, how you'd save the princess.

I was bored so I spent my time doing this.

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8462/yaytheprincessissaved.png)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 26 August, 2010, 10:48:24 am
Reminds me of an Atari game known as "Knight On The Town", I fully recommend trying that one out.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 02:23:47 am
drawing someone swinging a sword or some such thing forward can be annoying in certain positions. I'm going for something specific here, and because of how he steps forward, the foreshortening of part of his leg causes him to simply look short <_<

eh I guess I just need more drastic foreshortening

too bad I don't have an eraser right now


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 29 August, 2010, 04:24:12 am
I've never tried to seriously draw someone swinging something...

Personally I'd try to blur most of it out as a shortcut.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 06:22:10 am
the thing being swung's no problem, it's that he steps forward in doing so, with his leg at like a 90 degree angle, so in foreshortening the leg, it looked like his leg wasn't really coming out very far and that he was just rather short.

Finding this entire pose to be annoying

how do I do pointed shoes when they're being pointed out at the viewer

how do I make these legs look properly like he's stepping forward as he swings

how do I not make it look like he's just holding his arm behind him while dramatically stepping forward and instead like he swung the thing

rrrggg

It's mostly the specific perspective I was going for, but I really want to do this picture, so I'll keep trying at it.

After sleep.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 29 August, 2010, 01:33:45 pm
I don't really find it hard, if at all. Ever since I started using stick figure guidelines, I've had no trouble in making poses. It's all about the perspective for each limp for texture placement and drawing shapes that represent the angle of the body part in question.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 07:36:52 pm
I seriously just cannot draw this pose.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 07:39:54 pm
and as soon as I type that I make headway

ffrrrrr


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 08:43:35 pm
now pixelated waves are haarrddd


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 09:44:41 pm
THIS IS SO MESSY

And a little awkward looking.

Hopefully photoshop can make the whole thing look more dynamic. I might have to make Gideon smaller/the ground bigger <_<

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4765/gideoniguess.png)

I was using the actual battlefield as a reference (right down to the number, arrangement, and broken-ness of the panels), and didn't realize until I had already started going how small I had made them.

Plus the pixel wave slash is UNBELIEVABLY SMALL because by the time I'd drawn it, the pencil eraser had effectively crapped out on me.

sort of bugs me that one side of the broken panels has ground underneath it and the other side doesn't but that's just what it looks like so I dunno

Gonna add more to this drawn on separate pages; but I had no chance in hell of successfully adding the things I wanted on this sheet of paper. Before the fight starts he's sitting on a throne, which turns into bats that fly at you when he stands up from it. I intend to draw a few bats, and I might throw Scott in there if I can't make him essentially attacking nothing look appealing.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 09:45:52 pm
also if you look hard you can see the fucky guidelines of where I contemplated drawing Scott but decided not to


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Random on 29 August, 2010, 10:03:58 pm
also if you look hard you can see the fucky guidelines of where I contemplated drawing Scott but decided not to
Was wondering what that was. Looks good though.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 29 August, 2010, 10:27:10 pm
Drawing lighter lines might help the eraser work more effectively...but at the same time it dosn't show up well when scanned...

 


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 10:29:26 pm
My eraser right now is seriously non existent. I'm practically rubbing the plastic against the paper.

What's left of the eraser has weird black marks all over it. Not like from erasing pencil like normal. They won't come off and get on the paper.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 29 August, 2010, 10:35:45 pm
Sounds like it might be ink.

Probly should get a fresh one.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 29 August, 2010, 10:40:12 pm
I got a nice new white one from a friend, but I left their house and forgot it.

Then they went away and won't be back for a few days

|:


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 30 August, 2010, 01:50:16 am
Unforgivable.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 30 August, 2010, 02:33:08 am
whatever man

erasers hate me all the time anyway

so

I WONDER HOW GIDEON'S COMING even though I've really done very very little on the picture

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4658/gideongravessample.png)

woo disembodied head

woo blur filter background

woo pixel sword that came out better than I thought it would

I'm finding it much better to do lineart on the completely un-shrunk scanned picture. I can consciously make the lines thinner, and my scanner makes everything huge, so I'll inevitably shrink it, resulting in nice, thin lines.

I can't tell if these are nice thing lines though because his head happens to be laid against the darkest part of the background :|

As for that Eko, well, I did part of the lower half of the city drawing, didn't really like it. Stopped. Meanwhile, I couldn't work on photoshopping Eko himself because my mouse died, so I had to use the shitty one that double clicks almost every time I click a single time. And if I try to drag, it'll click on its own half way through dragging and **** everything up so I decided not to bother.

And when I got new batteries I had already decided I wanted to draw Gideon

so

It's something new at least

Also, might make it desktop sized.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 30 August, 2010, 02:34:29 am
HOPE NOBODY SAW THAT

I always type my **** out while the picture's uploading and I forgot to actually put the picture in before hitting post

don't know why I'm saying this maybe I just want attention


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 30 August, 2010, 02:44:03 am
Hey, cool effects. I wish I could do that sort of thing...

Looks good so far.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 30 August, 2010, 02:50:02 am
They're doable in gimp, too. Not too hard, you could do them no problem-o. And probably find more inventive uses for them.

I really only blurred the background to hide how weird it looked when I simply drew the different shaded scales exactly as they are in the fight.

It's the background (...and entire setting) from this video

Scott Pilgrim Game ending spoilers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukl0AxqY64Y

though I guess there's not much point in warning about final boss spoilers when I have a big picture right above that is illustrating the same thing...


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 30 August, 2010, 03:05:50 am
I see.

Lulz, looks like an interesting game.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 03 September, 2010, 03:35:04 pm
Work in progress is in progress.

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8435/ekoonsomewires.png)

I intend to add a nice city-scape to the background. But I know I'll just ruin the drawing if I try it on the same piece of paper, so I'll do it on a new one. It's not like much will be noticeably connected anyway.

I guess the intention is that those are like telephone wires or something. I dunno even though cats are not squirrels I always like to associate him with wires and telephone... cable... Things.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4bq_KVjOVu4/R6tbMxLRKxI/AAAAAAAAAx4/N6SgzS2Arhk/s400/sm.zurich4.jpg)

The image is a photo taken in Zürich, Switzerland; it comes from Helvetica, a documentary about typographers and typefaces.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 03 September, 2010, 07:10:23 pm
Hey, cool. Thanks.

I'll see if I can look for some up-close pictures to use as references for making the wires look more detailed.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 25 September, 2010, 04:36:28 am
Okay here's a new drawing that isn't done.

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5264/expie.png)

Which was also posted in my ask topic because I'm a ****.

I'm particularly looking for assistance in drawing her hand on her hip, with the palm on the hip. It isn't very hard to do a fist(ish thing) with the knuckles resting on it or whatever, but palm is hard.

And there's gonna be a bike or a scooter or something there eventually

As for eko and gideon, I realized I hate photoshopping things with a mouse

too bad


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 25 September, 2010, 11:17:02 am
Try it with a touchpad, you'll see what I have to go through.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 25 September, 2010, 11:48:54 am
What kind of touchpad are you using that makes it harder?

I mean they're only harder at first but after a couple of hours pratice you should be ok....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 25 September, 2010, 11:55:14 am
The one that's on every laptop.

It's impossible to do certain styles, better shading, better linework, etc without taking a week or hurting your fingers in long-term use. It's really tedious and overall I would prefer a mouse or even better a tablet. But my lack of working USB ports makes all of that impractical.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Esh on 25 September, 2010, 12:00:31 pm
Oh those things.... Yeah they're pretty much designed by someone who hates laptop users with a passion.... I can even do normal computer stuff eithout hassle on those....


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Z911 on 25 September, 2010, 12:17:07 pm
I've gotten used to it for normal browsing, but everything else is troublesome including Starcraft with the mouse sensitivity turned up.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 25 September, 2010, 05:40:32 pm
Nicely done.

Reminds me of Mashiro a little.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 25 September, 2010, 08:43:52 pm
Reminds me of Mashiro a little.

First thought was Bakuman mashiro olo. But googling brought up the one I'm certain you're actually referring to. Yeah, that makes sense, as both this, and her (and her mask) are references to Kamen Rider... Mashiro's just less explicit about it.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 26 September, 2010, 08:56:31 pm
Been playing Diamond. Not done yet, but this is my team, drawn.

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6866/mypokemonteem.png)

excluding biderpel my hm slave (and replacing him with the pokemon I use in his place when I have to fight a lot of ****, luxio)

Their names are as follows
Prinplup - Pringer X, Ponyta - Charlie, Alakazam - Alkatraz, Murkrow - Nightwing, Luxio - Shizzy, Gengar - ...Gengar.

hurrrr anyway I plan to draw them AND THEIR UPDATED AMAZINGNESS after I beat the elite four. Considering right now only two are fully evolved (because I just had to trade them).


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 26 September, 2010, 08:56:46 pm
yes I'm playing as the girl why don't you shut up


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 27 September, 2010, 12:08:47 am
omg why would you play as the girl


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 27 September, 2010, 12:38:41 am
I'm impatient and already started the post Elite Four picture lol

Not going to continue on it though, because I might change around at least one Pokemon on my team, depending on some certain things.

But regardless, I must say that it's infinitely better and cooler than this one, which was sort of the idea from the start.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 27 September, 2010, 06:58:16 am
WHO WANTS MORE POKEMON DRAWINGS
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9481/relixedcubonegold.png)

this was drawn for someone on GameFAQs though.

I might be doing a number of Pokemon drawings though. Someone suggested I draw every major encounter I face in the game, and considering I'm mostly done, I figured I'd start doing that. They'll also help make the two "team" pictures look more epic in comparison.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 01 October, 2010, 01:03:44 am
lol this topic sucks now

maybe because this whole board sucks

but

it's probably just me who sucks

here's a drawing

(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7562/gugyugubah.png)


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 01 October, 2010, 01:58:22 am
Dialga is really well drawn. I'm liking your crisp line work there.

I like the way the pillars appear broken, too.

Not sure why but I enjoy the small things in a drawing most, such as a jaw line or folds in clothes.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 01 October, 2010, 03:41:11 am
I was just copying the **** out of an actual picture of Spear Pillar until I got bored and stopped caring about the fact that it's kind of a small platform and doesn't extend as far as I extended it.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 09 October, 2010, 06:00:12 pm
I dunno. Here's this from a few days ago I guess.

(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4966/datlake.png)

The buildings are the literal definition of lol. I'm not even going to pull some **** like "buildings are hard" or "I was lazy". I looked at those buildings, and I went out of my way to make them look as retarded as I could.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 09 October, 2010, 09:34:11 pm
HOW CONVENIENT THAT YOU'RE POSTING SHINO, because I have another drawing
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7138/megamanandrush.png)

this is my best mega man drawing ever

and my only rush drawing ever.

Probably gonna photoshop it.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 09 October, 2010, 09:37:16 pm
I find that perspective one of the hardest to pull off. Chins are kinda tricky for me.

The ring sword is pretty sweet-- OH SNAP MEGA MAN

Love the line quality on that one.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 09 October, 2010, 09:48:21 pm
That chin was tricky. Specifically looked up references. They weren't super helpful because he has such a twigly neck though, but they must have helped somewhat, considering the chin ended up looking alright, and I wouldn't have gotten that result dicking around with it myself.


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: ShinobiNinjaX on 09 October, 2010, 09:57:26 pm
Exaggerated styles like ours makes perspective and some facial expressions slightly more difficult to draw, I think.



Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Spring-Loaded on 09 October, 2010, 10:13:49 pm
kawaii~ ^-^


Title: Re: Raizor's art topic of unresponsiveness and active lollygagging
Post by: Rai on 09 October, 2010, 10:15:39 pm
Exaggerated styles like ours makes perspective and some facial expressions slightly more difficult to draw, I think.

oh yeah.

kawaii~ ^-^

the ****