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« Reply #120 on: 18 June, 2009, 02:08:14 pm »

Oh for the love of god, can't Magellan just get beaten already?


Well, at least they're out of Impel Down now. Though Magellan could probably still follow them with that Venom Road technique, or whatever it's called.
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« Reply #121 on: 18 June, 2009, 05:32:45 pm »

No, because Aokiji's barely fought at all and Kizaru has only fought once. But I can tell they'll be irritating once they get full-fledged fights.

Oh, and Kizaru's powers were partially negated by Silvers Rayliegh's haki, so it wasn't too bad.

As for Lucci, granted no-one apart from Luffy could really go toe-to-toe with him, but he couldn't just turn himself into a substance that either negated physical attacks or even countered them. Sure, he had tekkai, but that could be bypassed if the attack was strong enough. Also, all his skills (apart form his Devil Fruit powers, but he was just a Zoan-type) were gained through years of intense training.

Crocodile and Eneru both had similar issues to Magellan until Luffy discovered their weaknesses (Crocodile = water/liquid, Eneru = rubber). Last chapter it looked like Luffy had finally found a way of countering Magellan's powers, but then Magellan pretty much just goes "Oh yeah, I can melt/poison that as well lol".
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« Reply #122 on: 18 June, 2009, 10:21:14 pm »

There are still a ton of abilities that could counter him though...

I guess Magellan's just to show that sometimes, one ability simply can't beat another.
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« Reply #123 on: 19 June, 2009, 09:43:28 am »

There are still a ton of abilities that could counter him though...

I guess Magellan's just to show that sometimes, one ability simply can't beat another.

Like what? The only non-marine I can think of is Ace. He could probably just melt or poison everything else.
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« Reply #124 on: 19 June, 2009, 10:55:28 am »

YOur logic is so unbelievably flawed that I literally don't know where to begin.

How? It's just my opinion.
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« Reply #125 on: 19 June, 2009, 12:50:20 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-OQjzd-lk&feature=related&fmt=18

As sad as it was in the manga.

And really. Playing a sad version of Bink's sake at the same time? That's just cruel, anime director.

Cruel.
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« Reply #126 on: 19 June, 2009, 12:50:50 pm »

Yes, but your reasoning for arriving at that opinion is riddled with holes and inconstistencies. And while I have no complaints against you having a different opinion from me, your constant complaining about the current arc severely tests my patience.

I've only mentioned it once before now. Twice in total.

And how is it inconsistent?
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« Reply #127 on: 19 June, 2009, 03:15:14 pm »

Yes, but your reasoning for arriving at that opinion is riddled with holes and inconstistencies. And while I have no complaints against you having a different opinion from me, your constant complaining about the current arc severely tests my patience.

I've only mentioned it once before now. Twice in total.

And how is it inconsistent?

I admire your tolerance, Gar.

Eh?
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« Reply #128 on: 19 June, 2009, 03:45:23 pm »

Ah, I see...
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« Reply #129 on: 21 June, 2009, 11:49:00 pm »

There are still a ton of abilities that could counter him though...

I guess Magellan's just to show that sometimes, one ability simply can't beat another.

Like what? The only non-marine I can think of is Ace. He could probably just melt or poison everything else.

Double Finger: Spike through the face. Done.

Foxy: Slow down his poison so it doesn't hit him, then shoot him in the face.

Eneru: Poison probably wouldn't work on lightning.

Or any Logia user in general, who has the ability to make their body incorporeal.

Nami: I'm sure her Clima-Tact would give him a run for his money, utilizing mirages and lightning, albeit that's not actually a fruit ability.

He can be beaten. They just don't have anyone with them who can easily.

Though now that Jimbei (sp?) is in the water, he might be able to give Magellan a run for his money. Assuming his poison simply gets watered down in the ocean and doesn't kill everything in it.
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« Reply #130 on: 22 June, 2009, 10:05:02 am »

Double Finger: Spike through the face. Done.

Magellan turns his body into poison, negating the attack and most likely hurting her in the process.


Foxy: Slow down his poison so it doesn't hit him, then shoot him in the face.
Same deal as with Doublefinger except not hurting Foxy. I'm pretty sure bullets won't work on Magellan.


Eneru: Poison probably wouldn't work on lightning.

Or any Logia user in general, who has the ability to make their body incorporeal.

A good point, but most of the Logia users we've come across have either been Marines/affiliated with the World Government (Smoker, Kizaru, Aokiji, etc) or enemies of the Straw Hats (Eneru, Crocodile, Mr 3). And I know Crocodile is currently helping Luffy, but I really don't think his sand would stand much more of a chance than Mr 3's wax. And since those two are currently the only Logia users with Luffy...


Nami: I'm sure her Clima-Tact would give him a run for his money, utilizing mirages and lightning, albeit that's not actually a fruit ability.

But she just happens to be god only knows how far away. And on a Sky Island as well.


He can be beaten. They just don't have anyone with them who can easily.

Exactly my point.


Though now that Jimbei (sp?) is in the water, he might be able to give Magellan a run for his money. Assuming his poison simply gets watered down in the ocean and doesn't kill everything in it.

I would hope that's the case, otherwise Oda would be essentially ignoring his own rule about Devil Fruit users and water.

Hm... But now that I think about it, it's possible that Blackbeard might try something. If he hasn't already been carted off to a cell, that is. I'm still not convinced he was as affected by the poison as he was making out.
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« Reply #131 on: 22 June, 2009, 02:17:20 pm »

Small note, Mr. 3's fruit isn't a logia, it's a paramecia. I'm pretty sure it's been said that he can't turn into wax...
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« Reply #132 on: 22 June, 2009, 05:40:54 pm »

Small note, Mr. 3's fruit isn't a logia, it's a paramecia. I'm pretty sure it's been said that he can't turn into wax...

My mistake. But all that does is reduce the number of Logia users currently "allied" with Luffy to one.
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« Reply #133 on: 22 June, 2009, 06:25:37 pm »

I thought Magellan wasn't Logia, that's why Luffy could physically punch him.
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« Reply #134 on: 22 June, 2009, 06:40:44 pm »

I thought Magellan wasn't Logia, that's why Luffy could physically punch him.

Wasn't it just because he wasn't expecting it?

Argh! Damn Oda, making some Paramecia powers so similar to Logias...

Oh well. Even if physical attacks can hit him, the fact that Foxy or Miss Doublefinger could potentially hurt Magellan doesn't really mean anything since neither of them are there. And frankly I doubt we'll ever see them again at all for that matter.
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