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« Reply #495 on: 19 March, 2010, 08:58:33 pm »

I dunno, I just don't see why he wouldn't strike at a Logia first, or someone like Marko Phoenix. I mean, when you've just revealed to the world your plans for taking it over, invincibility is usually pretty high on my list of things to get out of the way first.

I don't think it's that easy for him to steal powers. Remember he could only take Whitebeard's after he died. And even that was only because his corpse was still lying (or in Whitebeard's case, standing) around unattended. Plus we don't even know the limits of this new ability of Blackbeard's. Most people aren't even supposed to survive having two Devil Fruit powers, let alone more.

And you also have to bear in mind that the Gura Gura no Mi is apparently the most powerfully destructive Devil Fruit power. Y'know, power to destroy the world and all that... Taking Whitebeard's Devil Fruit power would probably also send out the strongest message as well, as he was known as the strongest pirate in the world.
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« Reply #496 on: 24 March, 2010, 08:43:45 am »

Hmm....while I think Oda is walking on a thin line with Blackbeard, but I trust in Oda. He's a good author. I'm sure he's thought what he's doing through, and he won't pull any Kishimoto-level stupid stunts.

Also, as much as I liked Ace, his death is one of my favorite One Piece moments ever. It was just....so.....yeah. It's like....so unexpected, yet handled so well.
It reminded me why I love Oda so much as an author.
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« Reply #497 on: 24 March, 2010, 08:51:20 am »

One of the reasons its so damn unexpected is because people have joked for years about how nobody ever dies in One Piece unless it was in a flashback (I'm looking at you, Pell).
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« Reply #498 on: 24 March, 2010, 09:10:55 am »

Exactly! That's why it's so unexpected!

But it's like....since he had gone so long without killing anyone off, you knew when it happened, it would be big and meaningful. And damn was it epic.

Oda knows how to handle character death. If you're going to kill someone off, do it with style....do it in such a way that the fans actually appreciate the scene. Do it with respect for the character and with a purpose in the plot.
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« Reply #499 on: 24 March, 2010, 01:41:00 pm »

What strikes me the most is how the pirates actually lost. We all made jokes a couple months back about how utterly screwed the pirates were and how Oda would have to pull something crazy in order to let them beat the Admirals and the Shichibukai, and they didn't. Sure the pirates had a couple of tricks up there sleeves, but there was really no way they could go up against a force that powerful.

Though I do find it interesting that Blackbeard's the one that seems to be coming out ahead of this.
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« Reply #500 on: 24 March, 2010, 02:36:37 pm »

Oh, that reminds me.

I think I know what fruit Sengoku ate.
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« Reply #501 on: 24 March, 2010, 04:06:48 pm »

Oh, that reminds me.

I think I know what fruit Sengoku ate.

Do tell.
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« Reply #502 on: 24 March, 2010, 04:17:52 pm »

Human Human Fruit.
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« Reply #503 on: 24 March, 2010, 05:04:53 pm »

Human Human Fruit.

Already eaten by Chopper.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Hito_Hito_no_Mi
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« Reply #504 on: 24 March, 2010, 05:22:39 pm »

Whoever said that there was only one of any fruit?

Besides, he's obviously achieved enlightenment.
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« Reply #505 on: 24 March, 2010, 05:35:50 pm »

Whoever said that there was only one of any fruit?

Besides, he's obviously achieved enlightenment.

But that doesn't explain his freaky giant buddha-thing form.

Besides, Oda has said that two people can't have the same Devil Fruit power at the same time in a SBS.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_48#Volume_48.2C_Chapter_467.2C_Page_166
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« Reply #506 on: 24 March, 2010, 06:13:52 pm »

How does enlightenment not explain Buddha form?
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« Reply #507 on: 24 March, 2010, 06:20:53 pm »

Because enlightenment is the only benefit a human would gain from eating the human human fruit. They wouldn't be able to change forms, like Sengoku does, as they're already human. It's far more likely that Sengoku's power is either a Parameica fruit, or not a Devil Fruit power at all.

And as I said, Oda himself has said that two people can't have the same Devil Fruit power at the same time. Chopper ate the human human fruit, so Sengoku can't have.
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« Reply #508 on: 24 March, 2010, 06:23:54 pm »

First, since he's the Buddha, then he must have Buddha powers. This obviously includes being gigantic.

Oda also said that nobody can have more than one Devil Fruit power at a time.
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« Reply #509 on: 24 March, 2010, 06:43:37 pm »

Yes, I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying it's not a result of the human-human fruit. Isn't it possible that Sengoku is just naturally very intelligent?


It's pretty clear that Blackbeard is a special case. Marco said that Blackbeard is "no ordinary person". And anyway, that might only apply to actually eating more than Devil Fruit. Blackbeard didn't actually eat the Gura Gura no Mi, he just stole the powers after the previous owner died.
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