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« Reply #75 on: 24 October, 2014, 11:52:14 am » |
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They're not really considered demons, so this might not be a good suggestion, but dragons are typically the ancient creatures associated with greed, due to their hoarding nature and all that.
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« Reply #77 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:02:44 pm » |
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Yeah. Plus, while you say they're not demons, I believe some myths refer to the Devil as "the dragon", so it's not completely out of the way.
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« Reply #78 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:05:42 pm » |
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And there's certainly been plenty of other evil fictional dragons, so it's not like we'd be drifting far away from the archetype.
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« Reply #79 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:08:27 pm » |
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In which case, if we're looking for something very representative, a dragon, either humanoid or monstrous, would be a pretty good choice. Dragons are to greed what succubi/incubi are to lust, as far as I know.
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« Reply #80 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:12:21 pm » |
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I think if a dragon becomes a member of the Seven it should definately be a big one. Maybe with the ability to shrink itself down/become more humanoid?
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« Reply #81 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:13:55 pm » |
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Yeah, that sounds good. I think I might make that a theme for the Seven, with them all having humanoid forms but monstrous, One-Winged Angel true forms.
I think a dragon might work, though possibly make it "different" to traditional dragons, to separate the demonic members from the traditional ones that knights slay. I'm considering something similar for succubi/incubi, actually.
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« Reply #82 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:18:28 pm » |
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The dragon could be something of an inversion compared to ones like Beelzebub and the potential Vampire/blood demon, in that it actually prefers to spend most of its time in its full dragon form, probably guarding its hoard.
Different how, though?
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« Reply #83 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:26:23 pm » |
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Yeah, that makes sense. It keeps it from just being strictly formula. It's quite similar to what I have planned for Lucifer, actually.
I'm not sure for the dragons yet, but I'm considering Asmodeus's race could be "True Succubi/Incubi" and are horrendous monsters that use illusions to appear beautiful, as opposed to Lilith and the other succubi who just ARE beautiful. Of course, going through this topic I can't say I'm too hot on the idea anymore... maybe keep it for Asmodeus as his monstrous form, like Belial.
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« Reply #84 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:34:46 pm » |
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Hm... Could Asmodeus in particular have become corrupted in some way? I like the idea of it just being him and not simply a natural late stage of every succubus/incubus' life cycle.
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« Reply #85 on: 24 October, 2014, 12:36:45 pm » |
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He (or she) could indeed. In fact, it's entirely possible that his time in Hell could have done something (and to Mammon, in fact), and that's what separates them from the regular succubi and dragons.
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« Reply #86 on: 24 October, 2014, 01:57:42 pm » |
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What do you think of the idea of Asmodeus being an Incubus and the Seven dragon being female? It could be a good inversion of the usual gender assignations. For example, leaders of lust demons tend to be female and the majority of villainous dragons seem to be male.
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« Reply #87 on: 24 October, 2014, 03:31:01 pm » |
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Hm... that could work. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a female dragon in any major series...
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« Reply #88 on: 24 October, 2014, 03:48:51 pm » |
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The only ones that spring to mind are Dragon from Shrek and, if she counts, Maleficent. And it doesn't take long for Dragon do a heel-face turn.
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« Reply #89 on: 24 October, 2014, 08:19:39 pm » |
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That's true...
For Asmodeus, I was starting to think that maybe s/he could be androgynous or a hermaphrodite. That's he's not an incubus or a succubus, but both.
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