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« Reply #15 on: 17 October, 2014, 07:56:59 pm »

His belief that he's the greatest of God's creations and creating the Demon World to show he's just as powerful.

So you still need to assign Wrath, Sloth, Gluttony, Greed and possibly Envy and Lust (although I can't think of a more suitable species than succubi/incubi)?
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« Reply #16 on: 18 October, 2014, 12:33:55 pm »

Actually, I've already assigned which of the Seven represent which sin. It's just what demons they each are.

Pride: Lucifer and the fallen angels
Wratch: Satan and the devils
Sloth: Belphegor
Gluttony: Beelzebub
Greed: Mammon
Envy: Belial and the vampires(?)
Lust: Asmodeus and the succubi/incubi(?)
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« Reply #17 on: 18 October, 2014, 04:33:44 pm »

Wow, Sloth, Gluttony and Greed are going to be tough to place...

Vampires could also serve for Gluttony or Greed, given their parasitic, preying nature and dependence on other beings' life energy, etc, but then I guess the same could be said of succubi/incubi.
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« Reply #18 on: 19 October, 2014, 04:16:35 pm »

I'd say vampires would be more pride than envy. Though Greed and Gluttony would also work well.
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« Reply #19 on: 19 October, 2014, 04:34:05 pm »

That's true... in fact I haven't really come up with anything for Mammon yet, so I'll keep it in mind.
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« Reply #20 on: 19 October, 2014, 05:06:28 pm »

I'd say vampires would be more pride than envy. Though Greed and Gluttony would also work well.

True, but given their descent from Lucifer I'd say Fallen Angels edge them out.


Is there anything you can tell us about these demons that might help us pick a species for them?
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« Reply #21 on: 20 October, 2014, 10:58:50 am »

Well, there's not really much I've decided with them except for Lucifer and Satan. Beelzebub would probably be some sort of insect demon, not just the obvious Lord of Flies idea but to represent Gluttony by being an enormous, unstoppable swarm of all-devouring insects; and I'm considering making Belphegor a partially/fully cyborg demon, having chosen an easy path of letting his body parts wither away and replace them with machinery rather than put in the effort to keep them strong.
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« Reply #22 on: 20 October, 2014, 02:59:29 pm »

Both sound good to me. For some reason I can picture Beelzebub looking like a hooded/cloaked figure until he releases his insects. Kind of like a much more sinister version of Oogie-Boogie.
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« Reply #23 on: 20 October, 2014, 04:56:46 pm »

...that actually sounds really good. Better than what I originally had planned.
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« Reply #24 on: 20 October, 2014, 05:03:29 pm »

Well it was either that or something like this, and I thought the former would be a bit more menacing. And less susceptible to bug spray.

But thinking back to the DS Castlevanias, isn't Abaddon something to do with locusts?
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« Reply #25 on: 20 October, 2014, 05:06:37 pm »

He is indeed. In fact, I originally dropped Abaddon from my Lords because I wanted to include Beelzebub, and I felt having two insect-themed demons were too similar. Now that I've upgraded Beelzebub from a Lord to one of the Seven, I'm probably going to bring him back.
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« Reply #26 on: 20 October, 2014, 05:09:42 pm »

But there'd still be the problem of having two insect-themed Lords. Maybe you could just make Abaddon a subordinate of Beelzebub?
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« Reply #27 on: 20 October, 2014, 05:10:45 pm »

The Lords and the Seven aren't the same group; the only connection is Lucifer is a member of both.
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« Reply #28 on: 20 October, 2014, 05:13:12 pm »

Oh right, are the other six of the Seven not around anymore then?
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« Reply #29 on: 20 October, 2014, 05:16:44 pm »

They're all off doing their own thing.

The best comparison I can come up with is One Piece; the 13 Lords are like the Schichibukai, who got the title by joining the group. The Seven are more like the Four Emperors, who aren't actually an organisation, and are just a group of extremely powerful beings on roughly the same level.
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